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That's what we all say. The highest octane we get in California is 91. Combine that with all the stupid additives and the CARB regulations and it adds up to sand and water. Heck, right next store in Nevada you can get 100 octane.
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98 is the best we get, but our regular is 91.
Japan gets 100, and it makes it a lot easier for car makers to not only make large amounts of power from smaller engines, improve driveability, and throttle response, but also emissions.
The US has a strange policy of having the strictest emission standards, but having the worst quality fuel, so for manufacturers to make vehicles with acceptable performance they have to use larger engines and then they get worse fuel economy.
Its the main reason you guys don't get diesels in smaller vehicles or pickups.
Japan gets 100, and it makes it a lot easier for car makers to not only make large amounts of power from smaller engines, improve driveability, and throttle response, but also emissions.
The US has a strange policy of having the strictest emission standards, but having the worst quality fuel, so for manufacturers to make vehicles with acceptable performance they have to use larger engines and then they get worse fuel economy.
Its the main reason you guys don't get diesels in smaller vehicles or pickups.
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WOW 98 how cool would that be to pull up and fill up with good juice, how the days of yester-year were so good...we could buy good stuff at one time in our history!
Even I remember that
Even I remember that
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The good juice huh???
and what have you been drinking lately Tim?
I actually run my car on 130 AVGAS on occasions (when the wallet can take a hit, and the missus has gone out on a shopping spree).
and what have you been drinking lately Tim?
I actually run my car on 130 AVGAS on occasions (when the wallet can take a hit, and the missus has gone out on a shopping spree).
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..... we cannot even get the 130 anymore, we get the 100 Low Lead
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Really. 
We get 100 as well, but our local aerodrome still has 130 as well.
Most of the planes/choppers out here will only run on 130...
I have never run it on straight AVGAS mind you. It has never been more than a 50/50 mix with 98 premium.
We get 100 as well, but our local aerodrome still has 130 as well.
Most of the planes/choppers out here will only run on 130...
I have never run it on straight AVGAS mind you. It has never been more than a 50/50 mix with 98 premium.
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DANKO.
The excursion is not dead,
I just looked at the ford web site and there is a 2005 model excursion and a comparison to other competiters. I personally
never heard that they would stop making them,just not as many.
The excursion is not dead,
I just looked at the ford web site and there is a 2005 model excursion and a comparison to other competiters. I personally
never heard that they would stop making them,just not as many.
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Originally Posted by BigF350
The US has a strange policy of having the strictest emission standards, but having the worst quality fuel, so for manufacturers to make vehicles with acceptable performance they have to use larger engines and then they get worse fuel economy.
The new energy bill looks like a shotgun shot; they don't really know where to go, so they'll throw a little money at everything.
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