August Sales numbers
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August Sales numbers
August/YTD sales numbers
Ford:..........8/05........YTD
Ranger........14,129......89,802
F-Series......90,388....625,047
Exped...........8,488.....85,872
Excursion......1,858......11,843
GM............8/05.......YTD
Colorado/
Canyon.......9,794.....105,427
Silverado/
Sierra........55,155.....693,366
Tahoe/
Yukon........14,662.....169,161
Suburban/
Yukon XL.....10,957....103,652
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Ford:..........8/05........YTD
Ranger........14,129......89,802
F-Series......90,388....625,047
Exped...........8,488.....85,872
Excursion......1,858......11,843
GM............8/05.......YTD
Colorado/
Canyon.......9,794.....105,427
Silverado/
Sierra........55,155.....693,366
Tahoe/
Yukon........14,662.....169,161
Suburban/
Yukon XL.....10,957....103,652
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WOW!!!
Looking at the amount the F-series picked up in the last month (also, Rangers appeared to have a good month too)
But these figures (In my opinion) have been affected severely by the discount policies being run as of late.
Read - Chevy/GM out of stock, Ford still had stock left.
Looking at the amount the F-series picked up in the last month (also, Rangers appeared to have a good month too)
But these figures (In my opinion) have been affected severely by the discount policies being run as of late.
Read - Chevy/GM out of stock, Ford still had stock left.
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osbornk- how about this- I'll break 'em apart the day Ford stops counting market share numbers with the brands combined? 
For those whose counting...ummm, counts (the manufacturers), it's all about market share. A sale lost to GMC is no less a problem than a sale lost to Chevy, since they are the same truck, built in the same plant, by the same competing manufacturer.
BigF350- I think that's a good call, although I noticed SUV sales got shellacked across the board, and GM had those on the ground.
For those whose counting...ummm, counts (the manufacturers), it's all about market share. A sale lost to GMC is no less a problem than a sale lost to Chevy, since they are the same truck, built in the same plant, by the same competing manufacturer.BigF350- I think that's a good call, although I noticed SUV sales got shellacked across the board, and GM had those on the ground.
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Originally Posted by polarbear
osbornk- how about this- I'll break 'em apart the day Ford stops counting market share numbers with the brands combined? For those whose counting...ummm, counts (the manufacturers), it's all about market share. A sale lost to GMC is no less a problem than a sale lost to Chevy, since they are the same truck, built in the same plant, by the same competing manufacturer.
For those whose counting...ummm, counts (the manufacturers), it's all about market share. A sale lost to GMC is no less a problem than a sale lost to Chevy, since they are the same truck, built in the same plant, by the same competing manufacturer.*Combine sales of F-Series and Mark LT.
*Combine sales of Ranger and B-Series.
*Combine sales of Expedition and Navigator.
And how the hell GM sold that many Yukons and Suburbans? They're both $35,000+ SUVs.
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In that case:
*Combine sales of F-Series and Mark LT.
It's on the docket. So far, it's been pretty low volume as production ramps up.
*Combine sales of Ranger and B-Series.
Why didn't I think of that? Doh!
*Combine sales of Expedition and Navigator.
Then we throw Escalades into the mix. I think I did that when we started, and the consensus was to leave them out since they address a different market.
And how the hell GM sold that many Yukons and Suburbans? They're both $35,000+ SUVs
Actually, more like $45000+ SUV's. GM owns the full-size SUV market, which is kind of interesting given they have some strong competition out there.
*Combine sales of F-Series and Mark LT.
It's on the docket. So far, it's been pretty low volume as production ramps up.
*Combine sales of Ranger and B-Series.
Why didn't I think of that? Doh!
*Combine sales of Expedition and Navigator.
Then we throw Escalades into the mix. I think I did that when we started, and the consensus was to leave them out since they address a different market.
And how the hell GM sold that many Yukons and Suburbans? They're both $35,000+ SUVs
Actually, more like $45000+ SUV's. GM owns the full-size SUV market, which is kind of interesting given they have some strong competition out there.
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How is the ranger better than the colorado? outdated suspension, outdated underpowered motor and outdated body style did I miss something. Don't get me wrong the ranger was good but not now they need a new one from the ground up to compete.
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Hey now dont be talking mess on the Ranger, thats the reason why I like Ford! My Ranger has been one tough sucker! The new Colorado is not that great, its really a sorry effort on GM/Isuzus part. The Ranger does suffer from all the things you said above, but its still one tough little truck , and can still run with all the new trucks.
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I think the Ranger/Mazda are the only small trucks left. Everything else has gone "midsized" or better. Maybe the new fuel economy standards will bring back smaller sizes for people who want and miss smaller trucks. The new requirements are going to be based on the footprint of the truck rather than load capacity.
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That is one thing I find fascinating about the US.
"Our Rangers" - which are admittedly entirely different - are rated to haul well over a ton...
We have variants of our Rangers which are rated to haul more than a SuperDuty.
Was this possibly due to emissions?
"Our Rangers" - which are admittedly entirely different - are rated to haul well over a ton...
We have variants of our Rangers which are rated to haul more than a SuperDuty.
Was this possibly due to emissions?
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More than likely, mindset. Let me explain- we have some guys driving 300HP diesels with over 600 ft/lbs of torque that they think they need to pull a 5,000 or 6,000 lb boat. Today, I fielded a Suburban inquiry where the customer insisted a 3/4T, 8.1L V8 was the minimum he'd consider... to pull a 4500 lb boat. I assume he wants to pull that boat 75 mph... uphill.