September Sales numbers
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September Sales numbers
September/YTD sales numbers
Ford:..........9/05........YTD
Ranger........10,105......99,907
F-Series......69,643....694,690
(memo: Mark LT...843....5,927)
Exped...........5,906.....91,778
Excursion......1,740......13,583
(memo:Navigator..1559..20,283)
GM............9/05.......YTD
Colorado/
Canyon.......9,902.....115,329
Silverado/
Sierra........64,283.....757,649
Tahoe/
Yukon........14,245.....183,406
Suburban/
Yukon XL......9,329....112,981
(memo:Escalade..3864..41,876)
I'm actually surprised at GM's numbers, considering they just about ran out of trucks before the month started.
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Ford:..........9/05........YTD
Ranger........10,105......99,907
F-Series......69,643....694,690
(memo: Mark LT...843....5,927)
Exped...........5,906.....91,778
Excursion......1,740......13,583
(memo:Navigator..1559..20,283)
GM............9/05.......YTD
Colorado/
Canyon.......9,902.....115,329
Silverado/
Sierra........64,283.....757,649
Tahoe/
Yukon........14,245.....183,406
Suburban/
Yukon XL......9,329....112,981
(memo:Escalade..3864..41,876)
I'm actually surprised at GM's numbers, considering they just about ran out of trucks before the month started.
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Looks like the ranger sold more then the Colorado Canyon combined. for the second month in a row. People still like the ranger even though numbers are down for the year.The more I look at this Colorado Canyon the more I dislike it. I wonder where they hired the styling guy for this one. It has a lot to be desired in the looks deparrtment. Even though the ranger is an old design. Put a ranger next to a Canyon an boy there is no comparison the ranger is so much better looking. I think if GM would have designed thast truck differently people would like it better. The love affair with the Colorado is quickly wearing off. I think Ranger will outsell it next year.
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Where has GM been getting the design crew for the last 35 yrs? Nothing at GM right now appeals to me.
I'm glad to see that the F-Series is almost outselling GM in trucks, only about 60,000 off form GM in combined truck sales. Another 3 months, w'ell see how it goes.
Thanks for the update Polar.
I'm glad to see that the F-Series is almost outselling GM in trucks, only about 60,000 off form GM in combined truck sales. Another 3 months, w'ell see how it goes.
Thanks for the update Polar.
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Originally Posted by polarbear
True- but we hardly had any on the ground. GM's '06 stuff is just now ramping up on production.
Jane Liu, vice president of data incentives for Edmunds.com, noted in a statement that 2006 models had a higher-than usual share of the market last month because most of the heavily discounted 2005 models sold when employee pricing was at its apex a few months ago.
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I think that this helps explain the September numbers. From Edmunds.com:
Like it or not, the Big 3 have trained their customers to wait, there is always a better deal just around the corner.
$6000 rebate on the Suburban? Unless their old car just died and they had to have a new car, why would anyone just go out one Saturday and buy something? Just like a pack of wild dogs, you wait, look for a weakness and attack.
And you know that the deals are going to keep coming. Look at my other post. GM and Ford have huge fixed costs. They must move huge volume. If the market size is 100 and you have to sell 200, they only real way of doing that is to have a fire sale.
Thanks to employee pricing clearing out most of the Big 3's incentive-laden vehicles in the summer months, September spending on incentives for General Motors, Ford Motor Co. and the Chrysler group was the lowest in more than two years.
The Detroit automakers spent a combined average of $3,140 per vehicle sold on incentives last month -- their lowest total since April 2003, according to Edmunds.com. It was also $476 less per vehicle than the average in August.
The Detroit automakers spent a combined average of $3,140 per vehicle sold on incentives last month -- their lowest total since April 2003, according to Edmunds.com. It was also $476 less per vehicle than the average in August.
$6000 rebate on the Suburban? Unless their old car just died and they had to have a new car, why would anyone just go out one Saturday and buy something? Just like a pack of wild dogs, you wait, look for a weakness and attack.
And you know that the deals are going to keep coming. Look at my other post. GM and Ford have huge fixed costs. They must move huge volume. If the market size is 100 and you have to sell 200, they only real way of doing that is to have a fire sale.
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Originally Posted by jschira
Like it or not, the Big 3 have trained their customers to wait, there is always a better deal just around the corner.
I think the reason Rangers are selling as well as they are is because they are the only remaining small truck. All of the other small trucks have grown into midsized trucks. I think Ford and GM are the only ones that seill sell a regular cab in the small/midsize market.
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Aw heck, I can't let this pass by. 
re: Ranger vs. Colorado. Is it time to fire up the corporate digicam and start a thread? I've got about 3200 miles behind me in a Colorado 4X4 Crew, and it's a lot more truck than some folks give it credit for. I'm not crazy about the nose, GM is making the aftermarket wheel & tire makers rich (no all-terrain tires avail, even as an option?
), and it's not exactly cheap. It does sell, though- I'm thinking the sales numbers reflect extremely restricted dealer inventories.
All that being said, the Ranger has a lot of appeal, and Ford's put some generous money on them (my next thread), so it should be a strong seller.
NickFordMan- "Nothing at GM right now appeals to me." Say "Corvette" very softly. That really is a brilliant design. 180+ mph, 28 mpg, and priced under $50K. The line forms to the right.
I keep harping about inventory- chew on this number for a minute: 58. That's the Bowtie side's total new car and truck inventory- we normally stock between 250-300.
re: Ranger vs. Colorado. Is it time to fire up the corporate digicam and start a thread? I've got about 3200 miles behind me in a Colorado 4X4 Crew, and it's a lot more truck than some folks give it credit for. I'm not crazy about the nose, GM is making the aftermarket wheel & tire makers rich (no all-terrain tires avail, even as an option?
), and it's not exactly cheap. It does sell, though- I'm thinking the sales numbers reflect extremely restricted dealer inventories.All that being said, the Ranger has a lot of appeal, and Ford's put some generous money on them (my next thread), so it should be a strong seller.
NickFordMan- "Nothing at GM right now appeals to me." Say "Corvette" very softly. That really is a brilliant design. 180+ mph, 28 mpg, and priced under $50K. The line forms to the right.
I keep harping about inventory- chew on this number for a minute: 58. That's the Bowtie side's total new car and truck inventory- we normally stock between 250-300.
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Yah Im not a GM fan but I dolike the Corvette. Its one product in its own class. I was just wondering if GM brought back the Camaro it would sell as good as the Mustang. As we all know the Mustang is the hottest car in the industry right now. An not everybody that wants one is getting one. Through all the turmoil in the industry thats one car that is selling without rebates. GM has handed that market top Ford. Off course the Mustang has a cult following. The Mustang has always sold well.
