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Don't forget the F150 was rated at 9100 lb before Nissan released their truck with a 9500lb towing. And then ford changed the numbers to 9900lb because of that but doubt it really has a good safe margin anymore.
Also the Nissan is still rated more for towing in the 4x4 model compared to the F150. lol
Originally Posted by ATVer1992
I was shocked to find it rated at 9900 lb. I know it can pull it, but to rate it at that i thought was rather high. I've pulled upwards of 7k in my old 302 powered Bronco with over 270k on the odo and it was fine on flat ground, but was really working on some of the steeper hills found on back roads. If you stuck to highway and flatter ground, i'm sure the newer, more powerfull 300 horse 5.4 over the 185 horse 5.0 (probably only getting 150 out of it now at 270k) will pull 3,000 more pounds with no problem. Not to mention high gearing than the bronco's 3.55's. Plus the 150 weighs in more than the bronco, as well as has a long wheelbase to help control this weight. However, I, as well as many others, would like to see the F-150 pull 9900 lbs up a long windy and steep grade, and be able to maintain normal speed.
I suggest that you put some more time and posts in on these boards before you shoot your mouth off like a 12 year old kid.
Making statements like......"what have you been smoking?" or "saying this shows that your an idiot" and "your talking out of your ***" is not a good way to get people on your side here.
Liking Nissan, and giving them credit for their product is one thing. But badmouthing American brands, and fello members here is not needed, and against the rules. Its adding fuel to a fire that none of us want started.
BTW, I read that post by MEGALODON1 a long time ago. You should do the same and educate youself.
Best as always.
Last edited by Musclecar_Fan; Mar 11, 2005 at 12:53 PM.
They didn't even compare the Titans rear axle to the F150 in that Ford advertisement mainly because it is BEEFY. It's a freakin modified Dana44. Dana44s are in over 400-500 hp vipers and Corvettes with no problems.
You need a serious education in cars. And to what I see by your profile, what are you doing in here when you don't even own a new f150?!
Well since you can judge my knowledge based solely on this thread, well, you must be god. However, I assure you, you are not, but perhaps you are a car expert. Well sorry to hear your education is limited to cars only. I mean this is a truck site, we are talking about trucks and you are worried about my knowledge on cars. Well I guess since we are talking about the titan, maybe it could be considered one car and one TRUCK. You must then excuse me while I brush up my car knowledge a bit to better understand your titan. I'll admit it I have worked on more trucks than cars. However, fear not, as for the rest of my education I have attened RIT for the past 2 years as an engineering major with a 3.0 gpa. So please understand that whatever you throw at me will probably go right over my head. You may have to dumb stuff down just so I can understand your extensive technical mumbo jumbo. In the mean time, you will have to bear with me while I try to take in your complex concepts and ideas.
Thank you for pointing out that the viper/vet use a dana 44. Well this must make the titan spin donuts around everything else because the axle is used in a viper. Since when was "Its in a viper so it must be good for a truck" ever valid logic. This is a brand new engineered truck and not junkyard wars. Well at least for FORD it is, i can't speak for nissan. They might've just pick at carcasses of their past cars and thrown together what is now a titan.
Getting back to "its on a viper/vette" logic, I bet if viper used toothpicks in place of a leaf spring you would say it is top notch, as long as it was painted to mach the car's paint scheme. Seems like its more about something being a pretty color to you rather than being designed right or useful.
Well too bad nissan can't manufacture a good rear axle. Hell if they were looking for something better than they could make for a similar cost, they should have not just outsourced the axle, perhaps the whole vehicle. I'm sure FORD could have made them a better car if they would like, or maybe even turn the titan into a real truck for them. This would have been the logical approach to get the #1 truck. However, as you can see by the resulting titan, nissan did it themselves, and will forever be only a runner up to the #1 built F-150!
Last edited by ATVer1992; Mar 11, 2005 at 01:09 PM.
I do have one of those "crotch rockets" - see my gallery.
However the engine is in my car - also see gallery. 620RWhp!!!
It is just as equally feasible to put it in my truck though, even if it looks like an El Camino.
I don't think it would be fair to compare my truck or an F-150 to your Ausi crotch rocket... hell you basically drive a car I drive a GIANT BRICK, and I'm sure your truck/car/whatever it is picks up speed very well after 120mph because of how aerodynamic it is, once I get passed 115mph in my truck I'm breaking throw ahell of alot of wind resistance. Heres a good comparision sprint 100 meters with some speedos on then sprint 100 meters in a pair of work boots with a 30lb snow jacket while holding on to a giant beach umbrella wide open, and that would be a good comparision of what its like to to compare your crotch rocket against my truck. (of offense intended I actually like the way they look)
Ok could your crotch rocket could pull an 8000lb trailer with 2 quads in the bed and 5 adults in the cab up a 6% incline at 75mph with no problems?
My truck has and so will an F-150 crew cab, a Titan crew cab or a Silverado crew cab...
Japenese are the ones who PAY ATENTION TO DETAIL. Unlike the American vehicle manufactures. Japanense make the best interiors, the quiestest, the best build quality, etc. You can't deny that.
Glad you like their interiors. Too bad the detail doesn't continue on past all the carpet and into the actual vehicle itself. Never the less, you will have plenty of time to enjoy it while waiting for the tow truck to come and drag your broke down piece of junk off the road.
ATVer1992, I'm very glad to see someone who is very proud of American products, especially Ford. I would like to see more of that. And I'm glad to see that you are wary of the foreign competitors as they offer full-sized 1/2-ton trucks for the first time in the U.S. We Americans have no experience with their full-sized 1/2-ton truck offerings. But to call all of their vehicles, including their cars, "junk, crap, %$#!" and whatever other descriptors you've use in referring to the foreign vehicles is just plain ignorant. Have you not paid any attention to what's outside the Ford world? Those foreign cars - at least the Japanese - have been known for the better part of 3 decades for achieving superbly long-lived engines, transmissions, rear axles, electrical systems, etc. 250,000 - 300,000 miles on a Honda, Nissan or Toyota car or small truck is not uncommon at all. Heck, I was just talking to a friend of mine last night, and he has a Honda car of some kind with 225,000 miles on it. NO REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE TO HIS CAR - EVER. The only things that have been done are the usual routine maintenance, brake jobs, clutch, tires, the usual stuff. Nothing else - not a water pump, no alternator, no sensors, nothing. And this is not that uncommon.
I'm glad that Ford trucks last that long too. I'm tickled pink. I want Ford to continue to make great trucks, as they already do. And I understand your concern over the fact that Nissan and others have not been in the full-sized U.S. truck market long enough for you to know if their full-sized truck products will be durable over the long haul. However, to lay out a blanket statement that refers to all foreign cars as junk is absolutely ludicrous. It's like a throw-back from the 50's and even into part of the 60's when Japanese products WERE junk. I'm glad to hear that there are people out there who really prefer to buy American (especially Ford), but to deny that the foreign automotive products are really outstanding is just a huge lie. You've got your blinders on and refuse to remove them. I guess that's ok, as you won't go wrong with Fords, but I personally like to be aware of the BIG picture and at least acknowledge that some of the other offerings are superb.
In a few years, we will see if Nissan's and Toyota's and Honda's full-sized trucks are any good for the long haul (no pun intended), but if their record so far in the small truck and car market is any indication, then my opinion is that their full-sized trucks will be right up there with the best that anyone has to offer.
Matt
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Liking Nissan, and giving them credit for their product is one thing. But badmouthing American brands, and fello members here is not needed, and against the rules. Its adding fuel to a fire that none of us want started.
BTW, I read that post by MEGALODON1 a long time ago. You should do the same and educate youself.
Best as always.
Wow please learn from yourself on what you just said. Because you were the first to bad mouth other brands and members. Or should I say you fellow members were the first.
I have never been a brand basher, and I am not one to badmouth others on these boards. There has been a few times that I have gotten into heated debates.(FordLariat will tell you that) But for the most part have kept things pretty clean. You are not a brand basher by any means, but you are a bit lippy. Lets just talk trucks now, and leave the emotional stuff out of it.
Exactly. Thank you Matt for a good post. ATVer1992 seems very ignorant in all his posts he makes just to cause problems.
Originally Posted by Matt Wilson
ATVer1992, I'm very glad to see someone who is very proud of American products, especially Ford. I would like to see more of that. And I'm glad to see that you are wary of the foreign competitors as they offer full-sized 1/2-ton trucks for the first time in the U.S. We Americans have no experience with their full-sized 1/2-ton truck offerings. But to call all of their vehicles, including their cars, "junk, crap, %$#!" and whatever other descriptors you've use in referring to the foreign vehicles is just plain ignorant. Have you not paid any attention to what's outside the Ford world? Those foreign cars - at least the Japanese - have been known for the better part of 3 decades for achieving superbly long-lived engines, transmissions, rear axles, electrical systems, etc. 250,000 - 300,000 miles on a Honda, Nissan or Toyota car or small truck is not uncommon at all. Heck, I was just talking to a friend of mine last night, and he has a Honda car of some kind with 225,000 miles on it. NO REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE TO HIS CAR - EVER. The only things that have been done are the usual routine maintenance, brake jobs, clutch, tires, the usual stuff. Nothing else - not a water pump, no alternator, no sensors, nothing. And this is not that uncommon.
I'm glad that Ford trucks last that long too. I'm tickled pink. I want Ford to continue to make great trucks, as they already do. And I understand your concern over the fact that Nissan and others have not been in the full-sized U.S. truck market long enough for you to know if their full-sized truck products will be durable over the long haul. However, to lay out a blanket statement that refers to all foreign cars as junk is absolutely ludicrous. It's like a throw-back from the 50's and even into part of the 60's when Japanese products WERE junk. I'm glad to hear that there are people out there who really prefer to buy American (especially Ford), but to deny that the foreign automotive products are really outstanding is just a huge lie. You've got your blinders on and refuse to remove them. I guess that's ok, as you won't go wrong with Fords, but I personally like to be aware of the BIG picture and at least acknowledge that some of the other offerings are superb.
In a few years, we will see if Nissan's and Toyota's and Honda's full-sized trucks are any good for the long haul (no pun intended), but if their record so far in the small truck and car market is any indication, then my opinion is that their full-sized trucks will be right up there with the best that anyone has to offer.
Big F350 Any truck could be made to go fast...
This is a time slip from a run I did with my 04 Ram Hemi QC 13.99 isn't bad for a 5000+lbs truck if you want the list of mods check my gallery haven't got it to the dyno yet but I'm expecting 305rwhp or so... https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...oid=71581&.jpg
Thread closed. I am finished trying to edit all the flaming and namecalling out. This thread has gone totally downhill. People... some emails have been sent out. I strongly suggest you heed my concerns mentioned in them.
I strongly suggest that everyone refresh their knowledge of the forum guidelines and the READ FIRST notes at the top of the forum.
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