Some interesting points were made, but I too would like to see comparisons to all brands in each segment. I do feel filter size is relevent. If they are being worked hard, especially in areas where it's hot and dry with lots of dust, the more filter capacaty the better. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean more filtering capacity, but it definatey has more potential for it. To me what the video shows is the atention to detail on the things that aren't visible just looking at the truck.

 

I like when he picked up the Chevy lower control arm with no problem. Then said it was made of steel and said it was nice and beefy. Then he picks up the Ford aluminum control arm, about the same size, and acts like he's having a hard time picking it up. I guess he was out of breath.

 

Oil filter size has nothing to do with power!! What exactly do you consider to be engine failure?? Would blue smoke at 150,000mi be considered failure? It would to me. Running dirty oil back into your engine will cause seals and rings to go sooner resulting in the burning of engine oil. Lets take a look at that nissan, which is probably running at about 3+ grand on the thruway and the ford which is probably around 2 grand doing the same speed. Now lets see which one has my definition of engine failure sooner. The nissan has a smaller filter which will hold less junk. Yet it is running faster than the ford, and likewise will have more wear. More wear = more junk in the filter. But the one with more wear has the smaller filter??? HAHA!! IF ANYTHING THE NISSAN SHOULD HAVE THE LARGER FILTER since it is reving almost twice as fast as the ford.

So the nissan approach is put the cheap filter in there and only give it power when its screamin and that will be a better built powerplant?? I'm sorry, i knew foreign cars were $$$$ but this just makes it that much better.

 

LOL. I like how he slams down the other tailgate like he can't even hold it up and then easily opens and slams the ford's shut. I really don't understand why they really need that tailgate assist. Anyone who has opened or closed a Bronco's tailgate will know what i mean. I am so used to the Bronco's that whenever i open another truck's tailgate its like there is nothing there.

 

Went by the dealer to do the taillight recall. They had a book there that actually showed more detail than the video did. I was more impressed by the book than I was with the video, because in the book the side by side detail looked more impressive than the cutouts on the video. Go to your dealer and check the book out.

 

Well, i realize the videos are pro ford; da its on the Ford web site. Why are we all hanging out at a Ford web site then if Ford is not our Brand of choice? I just thought they made some good points but i am sure there are some they would not show. I have had other brands like the dodge and chevy and franklin i was never as satisfied as i am with Ford products. The only thing i wish Ford would do is increase their warranty up to 7yr/70k
MB

 

You oviously dont know what your talking about. Why do you think the nissan is reving twice as fast? Nissan has a long history of building excellent powerplants and this is no exception.
You dont have to tell me that the oil filter has nothing to do with power, but if i was going to buy a full size truck the oil filter is not going to be the deal breaker.
Power is going to be a big issue and the titan dominates in that aspect.
The filter being small dosent mean its cheap.
They cut no corners when developing the 5.6 an all internal components such as the forged crank and 6 bolt mains are all top notch.
This is not to bash ford or any other 1/2 tons out curently as i have driven them all and there really arent any bad ones out currently.
THey all have positives and negatives.

 

I don't know, why does it? Could it be that it has no power at the lower end, where as fords 5.4 makes 80% of it torque at 1 grand.

How is it that the titan dominates in terms of power? it has 5 more horses and 14 ft/lb. I wouldn't consider this dominating. Even so, according to your statement the F-150 would be much underpowerd compared to the titan. Yet the F-150 can haul 9900lbs and weighs in at 5125. the GCVW is 15,300lbs. The nissan, haul 9500lbs weighs 5106. Sorry no GCVW on their site, probably becuase no one buying one would know what it was anyway. The titan has more HP (a whopping 5 more) yet it can't tow as much and it weighs less, therefore it would also have a lower GCVW. So much for more dominating power.

As far as cutting corners, you're telling me smaller is better? Why then is ford putting on such a large, (and always have) oil filter compared to the nissan's when they have similar size engines? Why is nissan's filter on their V8 truck the same size filter as on a 4 cylinder car? Go find a tractor trailer with a CAT C-15 diesel in it and let me know if it has the same size oil filter as a car. Of course not, that would be an example of severly cutting corners.

Not everyone has high standards, or any standard at all for that matter. It shows because of some of the junk that people will waste thousands of dollars on.

 

Where do you get this information??? I don't have numbers on the Titan in front of me, but the Armada that Car & Driver tested does 1800 rpm at 60 mph. They tested an F-150 5.4 in the same issue, it does 1780 at 60 mph. The Titan and Armada probably weigh close to the same and would have similar gearing so I think the Armada is a good indication of what the Tian will be running at. Also consider that the Armada and Titan have an extra gear so a downshift will put them at 2150 but the F-150 is already up to 2550 after a single downshift. The Titan may require a double downshift sometimes vs the F-150's single, but having an extra gear available should allow the engine to average slightly lower speeds. Add in the fact that the 5.6 Endurance makes more peak power and torque at lower revs than the 5.4 and I don't see any indication at all that the Titan will be revving significantly higher than the F-150 to do the same job.

 

The titan has plenty down low, again yor facts are twisted. 90% of the titans torque is avalible before 2500rpm. Show me a test where the f150 towed better than the titan. As many have said the ford dosent feel like 300hp.
The titan is only rated 305 but nissan was being moddest with that figure.
Ford and nissan both are pushing the tow ratings a little to far. Ford knows the majority of people who buy that truck arent going to pull that much.
Its all marketing hype.

 

I have to ask a question here. Why does anyone need a 6 bolt main. Stock 460 blocks only have 2 and you can build a motor that turns 6500rpm and makes 700hp before you have to upgrade the block to a 4 bolt. Forgot to as that we are using cast cranks to do that. With a 4 bolt main and a forged crank people are turning 9 grand.

A 6 bolt main and forge crank in a stock motor of any type makes me wonder if there block is inherently weak.

 

Nissan has always been known to overbuild there motors. Its kinda like the oil filter argument. Its not neccessary but its nice to know its there.
Even though oil filter size has been blown out of proportion with this thread, I would like to see automakes stick with the biggest filters possible in each application.
The current ford filter is still smaller than previous oil filters that fit the 5.0s an 5.8s as well as the 4.0 v6 rangers and explores.
The filters seem to be geting smaller with all newer vehicles.
The block design is proven as its been used in infinitis for over 10 years and although it is aluminum they did stregthen for the truck applications as well as using cast iron cylinder liners.

 

abmobil no one over designs anything and still makes a profit. If they put a 6 bolt main in there its because they needed it. Is this by chance an aluminum block? That might explain it but even then Ford aluminum big blocks still run 4 bolt mains. I just don't see the need. I would love to see picture of the bottom end of this engine to know why.

 

Yet they have a smaller oil filter?? Anyone know what the oil capacity on the new nissan is? Is it 5 quarts?

 

Actually its standard practice for nissan to use forged cranks in there engines from the little 2.5 liter 4 cyliter altima and frontiers to there flagship infiniti v8s.
Thats somthing the choose to do an its been working great for them.
There is not a problem with there block and yes its aluminum.
Nissan almost always overengineers there powertrains.
Theres a reason the vq v6 used in the altima, maxima, 350z and murano has won wards auto worlds 10 best engine award for the last 11 years. Its been called the best v6 in the world. It also uses forged cranks with 4 bolt mains.
Atv1992 the 5.6 nisan v8 holds 7 qts of oil.