Again, I have zero experience with the auto tranny...that said if you are just trying to get better mileage and some more power without flogging the truck I think the Edge/Attitude and a free flowing exhaust (I like Hog Performance) will make you a very happy person.

 

Well thank you, that is my goal. I'm went from a Z71 with a 350 pulling a 18ft dovetail with a 4k lb car to this so I don't think power will be an issue

 

I wouldn't be caught dead stacking a predator with and edge juice/attitude combo. Injection timing will be to great and make your poor little 6 oh knock

 

I'm not positive about this so don't flame me , but rear wheel v. flywheel doesn't matter so much when you are talking about an INCREASE in HP and torque- mostly it is critical when talking about initial ratings. If you're stock, putting out 325 HP and 560 lb/ft of torque, and you measure 275 HP at the rear wheel, a loss of 50 HP through the drivetrain, your loss has already been established. Now, as you increase HP, your loss may rise A LITTLE, but probably not anything too significant. So, if you add 150 HP at the flywheel, you probably add close to 150 or 145 at the rear wheel. Again, I'm not sure about this- it is just a thought. Once I get my SCMT, I plan on doing back-to-back dyno runs with the banks, Stock, and with the SCMT.

All of this discussion about which makes more power is just discussion unless you dyno your truck with the Banks, then with the Edge, on the same day, at the same atmospheric pressure and temperature, and publish the difference- data does not lie, the seat of our pants does... I know that my truck FEELS fast in the seat of my pants, but it is not as fast as I think it is. While these rigs are incredible for their size and utility, there's no way anyone in only a mildly modified 6.0 is doing to dust a hot rod or superbike in a race with equal drivers. I'm not opposed to chucking my Banks if there is a better option out there, and hope you don't take this note the wrong way- I’d love to see a back to back test of all boxes and tuners on the same truck- too bad we don’t have anyone from one of the truck magazines on here…

Remember- All of this is just my opinion and I do appreciate hearing everyone else's.

 

I couldn't agree more- never put a performance tune in a truck with a fuel box installed... This subject has been discussed at length in other threads, and the ONLY way to do this safely is if you set your box to "zero effect", stock, or whatever the lowest level is where it essentially has NO effect on the engine. The Banks as NO effect at level 1, and "Vic" from Superchips told me UNOFFICIALLY it was "safe" to load a performance tune at level 1 as long as I didn't touch the Banks swich once it was in.

There are some advanced tuners that you can stack, but you have to program them yourself, and I don't know enough about any of that stuff to even consider it. I'm fairly certain that you can not tune the trans separately with the Predator (I know the SCMT won't do it), but as always, I could be wrong.

My truck makes tons of power, stock or tuned. I love it. This performance stuff is all just for fun. Higher mileage would be great, but I didn't put $40K into a truck to loose sleep over a couple of MPG. As always, this is all just my opinion. If I were to spend $500 to get 2 more MPG, it would take me 32,727 miiles to break even on the investment...

 

I agree with you! I didn't even ask what the advertised MPG was on my truck, in fact, any truck over a 1/2 ton isn't even posted on the window. Well, not in this area anyway.......

 

LOL, dont' worry I don't think your flaming. I just wanna switch to edge cause I've seen them run better and I like the idea of the digital guages. Plus the custom fuel chip I'm gettin is made to work with an edge.

 

where is the cheapest place to buy the edge. Now will ford install this? I guess probably not.

 

I don't agree with you that the edge is better but I would like to see your dyno numbers. I have already compared mine to the edge product and beat them. The only thing that is cool about the edge is the digital gauges and recorded times IMO. I think both products are comparable otherwise and if you have an auto I would be careful. A local diesel tech here in WA will not install an Edge Attitude combo on an automatic because of tranny issues.

 

So what is safe to install on a auto?

 

The SC1704 it has the best tranny program of all of them....

 

so that is SCT, right?

 

No, SCT is custom dyno tuning. Superchips Custom is only 25% owned by Superchips, Inc., and is a seperated corporate entity.

The SCMT 1704 is the one that Motorhaven carries for the 6.0

 

I dunno, I haven't put the edge in yet to dyno it. A truck around here my buddy owns is almost a twin to mine only his is ex.cab and mine is crew. His truck runs better. Again just a in seat comparison. Again, I don't have an auto I have a stick. I ordered it like that. I'm not knocking banks by any means, they have great products, I just want an edge cause its gettin used in conjunction with other stuff

 

MotoroHaven does SCT as well.