from the diesel trucks i see in the stops they come from all over , i personal think they are out of hand using polution as the back drop to rape us for more money but it so .they call it diesel smoke/ safety inspection and when stopped at the road check they make you rev the motor and watch the pipes. you would not beleive some of the laws here , like my new coming truck i have to buy the registration for 4 years up front because it matches the dealer 4 year inspection decal.

 

Come on guys, you can not honestly tell me that diesel prices are going to stay at or below gas prices, especially, since the demand is going up!

Toss in the additional cost for the deisel motor, and you might as well toss your money at a better equiped F250, becuase the gap in price will be super small.

 

superranger
hope you mean diesel higher then gas ? that it how it is around here right now. be nice if it would reverse again as my big rig friends are dieing from the costs. i feel sorry for them . 250 to 300 gals at a time and 5 to 7 mpg
you seem correct to me about saving money and up\gradeing the goodies when it gets here my new 250 will be v10 and cheaper by 5 grand plus but then i'm a gas nut or how ever the diesel gang calls us . at least the blue oval says ford

 

Funny you say that about the F250. JDpowers recently pumped out a study on that very subject. Accordint to their data, you are very correct.

Diesel costs less than gas here. Barely. The state tax is, or was, double. On diesel.

Diesel production is incidental to gasoline production.

If you need 1 million shims to supplymarket demand and incedently produce 400k shams during the production process. The demand for shams is much lower. Even lower than the 400k produced. Shams should be cheaper. Much much cheaper.

It used to be so. But the US government got greedy, thank you Clinton. There isnt even supposed to be a tax on fuel. It was a temporary tax set up sometime around the 40s. Now they are gonna take advatage of us til we die. Then they will defile my rotting corpse. Makes me sick.

They have such a glut of diesel they have to crack it to make gasoline. Are us diesel owners paying for that. Talk about a real sham.

 

I think gas is a bit more in demand, diesel is cheaper than gas here right now. Diesel is $1.83 per gallon, the cheapest gas is $1.96.

 

Here in NM it is backwards, gas cheap deisel more!

 

From what I understand, it's that way in most of the country. I haven't been out of the state in a few days, but I sure wish I had a diesel when I do go!

 

Diesel is about 15 to 20 cents more expensive one week, and then its just the opposite the next. Gas is hovering right at about $1.85-$1.89/gal.

 

I wish I could buy anything for a buck 80 a gallon. Both gas and diesel have been holding above 2.20 for quite some time here and it doesn't look like they will go below 2 bucks any time soon, and then likely not for long either. I think we have some of the worst fuel prices in the whole country here in San Diego, CA.

 

I have both diesel and gas Trucks. Diesel here in Iowa is 2.09 compared to 1.81 for gas. This is the first time I have ever seen diesel cost more than gas. Whas up wit dat. The price determines what truck I get to drive that week?

 

The market for diesel is so small. Many stations around here wont carry it. Not enough volume.

 

these prices are unreal. wish we could do something about it all. if anyone thinks road fuel is bad you should have seen marine prices here this past summer. the local lake was $3.00 per gal for gas really "299.9 prem. only" thats why when i blew my mill this year i went the cummins /mercruiser combo uses half the fuel now "8 gals per hour down to 3 per hour" at the same speed. when will it end? these rip off prices HAPPY TDAY every one

 

In western PA, diesel costs more than premium gasoline, unless it's off road diesel.

 

I heard of a way to pass the Jersey smoke tests (sorry for being vague, but it's been a while) where ya fit a toggle switch to the electrically operated valve on your fuel control so it bypasses most of the fuel and the engine won't smoke during test.. I don't recall (I'm not a diesel mech) how the control was set to keep idling rather than cut off.
Anyone with insight into this?

 

That's a good idea, monckywrench.
Fuel prices are ridiculous, with no end or easing off in sight. Diesel and gas are WAY overpriced, and for me and most people that I talk to, the higher the cost of the fuel climbs, the worse the quality gets. I remember getting 18-20mpg regularly, on 87 octane gas, and now I get 13-15 at best, using the same pump at the same station. Not just that station, though, any gas that I get doesn't seem to go anywhere, it is now costing me over 80 dollars a week just to go directly to work and back, and that's not counting the other jobs I do and the fuel required for those jobs. The prices go up, but the problem is that no one's pay goes up to match it, so any budget that was liveable is now shot all to pieces. It's 50 dollars a week more now than it was two years ago, and that adds up fast. I don't know who or what, but someone should do something.
Back to the origianl topic, I read in a magazine (Your guess is as good as mine as to which one it was) that Cummins also has a V6 diesel coming out, and it makes a tad less hp and the same torque as their V8 prototype, but the torque of both are limited because Dodge doesn't offer a drivetrain that can handle more than what they put out, but what I don't understand is, doesn't the current Cummins 600 make more torque than the prototype V8? If they don't have a drivetrain that can handle the less torque of their V8 diesel prototype, then what handles the torque of the 600? Maybe it's because the V8 is being considered for 1/2 tons instead of 3/4 tons. Thoughts?