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My dealer gave that same line that it was normal for a diesel to have fumes inside the cab. UNTIL I took a copy of a thread from this sight that mentioned the cracked Y- pipe issue. All the sudden they found a cracked Y-pipe and fixed my problem. Thanks to FTE and all the information being swapped.
someone got a schematic of where this y-pipe is? dealer said no problems... I'm gonna find it myself!
Send me an email and I'll send you a picture, but the Y pipe is where the exhaust pipe from each of the two exhaust manifolds meet just before the turbo.
My dealer gave that same line that it was normal for a diesel to have fumes inside the cab. UNTIL I took a copy of a thread from this sight that mentioned the cracked Y- pipe issue. All the sudden they found a cracked Y-pipe and fixed my problem. Thanks to FTE and all the information being swapped.
Well, I just returned from the dealer with my '05 . The service mgr as well as the mechanic smelled the fumes in the cab. Mech checked the pipes and found no soot anywhere so he concluded that there was no pipe problem. He then called ford hotline where he was told that the above TSB about the Y pipe does not apply to the '05 and that the '05 has a totally different exhaust system. Hotline told the mech to tell me that this was normal and the mech told them he couldn't tell his customer that! Hotline told him that this was the first they had heard of an '05 with this problem so it must not be a problem and they have no idea what to do.... I am open for suggestions, this is giving both of us a headache when we drive this truck.
He then called ford hotline where he was told that the above TSB about the Y pipe does not apply to the '05 and that the '05 has a totally different exhaust system.
Really?
Can you look at an 04 model and try to determine if anything is new with the exhaust (y-pipe i mean)?
I don't see why it would be differenr but you never know.
Frankly, it sounds like the same old song and dance from Ford where they drag their feet and p1ss the customer off along the way.
Sheesh...
Just spoke with ford customer care, she said after further review the vehicle is operating within ford specs so there is no problem that they will do anything about. I stated "so you are saying that exhaust in the cab is normal"? Reply " the vehicle is operating within ford's specs... Maybe a call to NHTSA is in order?
here here! Some days it's barely there- others I cough up a lung. I get around it by leaving the AC on recirc. what a solution.
Originally Posted by t_j82
Just spoke with ford customer care, she said after further review the vehicle is operating within ford specs so there is no problem that they will do anything about. I stated "so you are saying that exhaust in the cab is normal"? Reply " the vehicle is operating within ford's specs... Maybe a call to NHTSA is in order?
Just spoke with ford customer care, she said after further review the vehicle is operating within ford specs so there is no problem that they will do anything about. I stated "so you are saying that exhaust in the cab is normal"? Reply " the vehicle is operating within ford's specs... Maybe a call to NHTSA is in order?
I can't believe how cavalier the hotline rep people are.
I feel for you brother.
The truth though is that a good dealer can and will stand up against non-sense.
I would try another dealer with a "very experienced diesel tech".
The dealer where you bought it should be doing more to remedy this headache(pun intended).
I had a tranny problem with my 6.0 and i had to go to 2nd dealer before they actually did the right thing and warranteed a solenoid.
You should start looking into lemon law stuff in your state as you might be closer than you think for new truck.
t_j82,
Sorry if I am asking a question which you already addressed... Do you hear a hiss? Pinpointing a hiss to a specific location shouldn't be overly difficult- However, no hiss would be a more difficult fix. I posted earlier on this thread about my mainifold leak about 16 months ago. No "odors" (problems) after mine was repaired.
The exhaust odor in the cab gets old real quick Good luck.
Well, I just returned from the dealer with my '05 . The service mgr as well as the mechanic smelled the fumes in the cab. Mech checked the pipes and found no soot anywhere so he concluded that there was no pipe problem. He then called ford hotline where he was told that the above TSB about the Y pipe does not apply to the '05 and that the '05 has a totally different exhaust system. Hotline told the mech to tell me that this was normal and the mech told them he couldn't tell his customer that! Hotline told him that this was the first they had heard of an '05 with this problem so it must not be a problem and they have no idea what to do.... I am open for suggestions, this is giving both of us a headache when we drive this truck.
Well, if I remember corectly, weren't you the one bustin' on the factory brake controller who after a few flames ran out and had your dealer take back your 05 without the controller and give you an 05 with the brake controller and all you paid was $300 for the truck swap. Well, guess you found out why your dealer was so generous. I think you were told that the remarks your dealer's 6.0 tech made about that controller and the programmers were idiotic. Doesn't surprise me that he cant find your exhasut leak.
If you were in AZ, you could not pass a state inspection with that new problem of yours. Ford has to fix all emmissions related problems. Just tell your dealer the next calls will be to your state attorney general and the EPA. That might fire him up to find that problem. Hope you get this solved. Afterwards, I would run as far away from that dealer as you can.
Well, if I remember corectly, weren't you the one bustin' on the factory brake controller who after a few flames ran out and had your dealer take back your 05 without the controller and give you an 05 with the brake controller and all you paid was $300 for the truck swap. Well, guess you found out why your dealer was so generous. I think you were told that the remarks your dealer's 6.0 tech made about that controller and the programmers were idiotic. Doesn't surprise me that he cant find your exhasut leak.
If you were in AZ, you could not pass a state inspection with that new problem of yours. Ford has to fix all emmissions related problems. Just tell your dealer the next calls will be to your state attorney general and the EPA. That might fire him up to find that problem. Hope you get this solved. Afterwards, I would run as far away from that dealer as you can.
Six, that was me and trust me the flames didn't do it. What you didn't know is the truck I gave back came to me with a bent rear bumper and step rail as well as 200 miles on it and a beer bottle in the seat pocket and for good measure sand in the door seals so I didn't quite trust it and knew it was going back.
As for my current truck, I called NHTSA and filed on the truck. I also called the service manager and he is waiting for the ford rep to call him tomorrow. He told me customer noservice called him and told him they are backing up the hotline people not the customer nor him. I am not the first '05 to report this problem, he said he has heard about this from 4 others so far, 2 of them owned by a major cable company. As for the tech, who really knows?? They had the truck for 2 hours today and at least one hour was spent running the codes and testing the EGR. Since I have not crawled under the truck to look myself (because I can't) I cannot for sure say he missed anything. It does seem a little strange though now that I think about it that it was never raised off the ground nor did I see him go under it. He did suggest that I just run it on max air or recerculate but as far as I know you are not supposed to run the a/c that way for extended periods and I told him I didn't pay 40K for a truck that I have to keep puching the a/c-heat buttons on everytime I slow down.
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P.S. No hissing noise that I could hear, but I am half deaf due to above mention party
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This is only a theory at this point but I think mine picks up fumes when stopped in traffic or at a stop light and the wind is coming from behind the truck - I think normal exhaust is coming in through the vent system. The 05 is worse than the 04. There is no hissing or other evidence of a leak and most of the time there isn't a problem. Also, it is definitely better now with 1700 miles on the truck. My solution is to role down the window for a few seconds after getting back under way and the fumes don't return until a similar stop. Maybe Ford's phone people should go for a ride!
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