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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Allright got myself in a pickle raced a guy the other night with a complete banks package4200.00 worth and stomped his DO NOT BYPASS THE LANGUAGE FILTERS he calls today says he wants a rematch says he bought and installed an edge evolution programmer ..... no problem I will oblidge(?) him after I get gauges and add the 10k mod or the clamp which ever one make the diff. on the seat dyno! Hears the rub would it be better for me to buy an edge also or is there very little differance between the evo and the superchips 1705 ??
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Allright got myself in a pickle raced a guy the other night with a complete banks package4200.00 worth and stomped his DO NOT BYPASS THE LANGUAGE FILTERS he calls today says he wants a rematch says he bought and installed an edge evolution programmer ..... no problem I will oblidge(?) him after I get gauges and add the 10k mod or the clamp which ever one make the diff. on the seat dyno! Hears the rub would it be better for me to buy an edge also or is there very little differance between the evo and the superchips 1705 ??
I'm buying the Edge Evolution for two reasons; first, it gives a code number and verbose explanation when using it as a code reader; and second, the Superchip requires that you enter your VIN into it which it then stores. Not a problem if you never want to sell it, but if you do, as I understand it, the performance part of it will not work with another truck unless Superchip's re-programs it. I believe this costs $125.00 plus shipping to and from them.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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I hate to tell you this but you're misinformed. The Superchips Microtuner does not require you to enter a VIN number. The Microtuner and Evolution do the exact same thing: when you program your vehicle it locks to that vehicle. When you restore the vehicle to stock tuning, they unlock from the vehicle.

If diagnostics is what you're after... look at the Predator. It has full text diagnostics plus something the Evolution doesn't have: live sensor data logging that you can download onto your PC. Plus the ability to update the programmer with a web download.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Ditto what the webmaster said. I haven't heard any complaints about the Predator tuner. The diagnostics function is a real plus as well.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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Ditto what the webmaster said. I haven't heard any complaints about the Predator tuner. The diagnostics function is a real plus as well.
Thanks for setting me straight. I considered the Predator, but, and again I may be mistaken, it won't work with a 1996.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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Thanks for setting me straight. I considered the Predator, but, and again I may be mistaken, it won't work with a 1996.
Sorry, I didn't realize you had a 1996. I think you're right, they won't work with the 1996. Have you checked out the Diablo chips?

For future reference, if you create a signature with your truck it's easier for people to give you suggestions.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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I hate to tell you this but you're misinformed. The Superchips Microtuner does not require you to enter a VIN number. The Microtuner and Evolution do the exact same thing: when you program your vehicle it locks to that vehicle. When you restore the vehicle to stock tuning, they unlock from the vehicle.

If diagnostics is what you're after... look at the Predator. It has full text diagnostics plus something the Evolution doesn't have: live sensor data logging that you can download onto your PC. Plus the ability to update the programmer with a web download.
I should have been more "truck specific." I have a 1996 PSD which would use the 1705 model. On page one of the manual ( a .pdf file on the Superchips website) it states, under "Connecting the Max Microtuner to your vehicle, "...MicroTuner is VIN locked....This indicates the MAX Micro Tuner has been previously used to tune a vehicle and cannot be used to tune another." On page 7 of the manual, it states that after programming is complete, "Once the programming sequence has been successfully installed on a vehicle, the MAX Micro Tuner becomes locked to that vehicle. The MAX Micro Tuner may not be used to tune any other vehicle."
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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PickSty, the VIN lock simply means that you can't use it on more than one vehicle at a time. You can use the tuner on another vehicle, but not at the same time.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PickSty
I should have been more "truck specific." I have a 1996 PSD which would use the 1705 model. On page one of the manual ( a .pdf file on the Superchips website) it states, under "Connecting the Max Microtuner to your vehicle, "...MicroTuner is VIN locked....This indicates the MAX Micro Tuner has been previously used to tune a vehicle and cannot be used to tune another." On page 7 of the manual, it states that after programming is complete, "Once the programming sequence has been successfully installed on a vehicle, the MAX Micro Tuner becomes locked to that vehicle. The MAX Micro Tuner may not be used to tune any other vehicle."
It appears you're confused as to exactly what's going on. They're all truck specific while the truck is tuned. Diablo, Edge, Superchips and Hypertech -- all of them. But as soon as you restore the truck to stock tuning they unlock and can be used on another truck.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Yes, I'm slow but I eventually get there. I went back and re-read the manual and I see what you mean. Oh well, maybe all this will keep someone else from having the same misunderstanding. Thanks again for your help.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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Ok thank you all guess I will get gauged and just install the 10k on top of my 1705 and see what happens?! Also does anyone know if the plug (connector) sp diesel sells will work on my 97'? Or can anyone tell me where I may purchase a plug that will work so I do not have to butcher my factory harness ? Want to try this clamp "thing" also just hate cuttin factory harnesses. All this just to race a freind with a 03 psd (we are gettin ready to whoop *** on a young dude in a dodge ARGH!! Hope he can shift fast HEHE!!
 
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