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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Question Ford Cat inline 6 vs the Cummins

Does anyone have any opinions on the Cat Inline Six engine vs the new Dodge Cummins?
 
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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Yeah, the Cat owns it.
 
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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Cat over Cummins any day.
 
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Personally thats my opinion too, but I haven't had the chance to experience the Cat myself. My dream truck is a F-350 or F-450 whichever you can get the Cat in 4x4 CrewCab Longbed Superduty
 
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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You can't fit a Cat in an F350 or F450. It's only available in the F650/750. I have seen an F750 that someone put a pickup bed on.
 
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Cool thanks for clearin' that up for me I wuzn't sure what the engine was available in.
 
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by johnsdiesel
You can't fit a Cat in an F350 or F450. It's only available in the F650/750. I have seen an F750 that someone put a pickup bed on.
Why can't you fit the Cat in an F-250 through F-550? It is only a 7.2L
inline-6. Both other engines used in the 650's and 750's (ISB 5.9L cummins and 6.0L PowerStroke) are also used in light duty trucks(pickups).
If you can fit a 7.3L V8 diesel in a truck, why not a 7.2L I-6?

By the way, I like the Cat. I would like to have the Eaton 10 speed Road Ranger manual or the 6 speed Aliison auto. But maybe that is the problem, there is not a transmission light and small enough that will fit the Cat. Or if there is, it can't handle the power.

I like your avatar. Did you make it yourself, or did you find it?
 

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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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7.2 doesnt justify actual size dimensions, its to big to fit in a regular size pickup
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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An inline 6 is longer than a similar displacement V8, so that may cause trouble when trying to fit the motor into the engine compartment. The biggest problem with Cummins conversions in Ford and GM pickups is the length of the motor, and the 5.9 is considerably smaller than the Cat C7.

GM was thinking about a Cat (probably the 3126) to put into their pickup 6-7 years ago, but scrapped the idea because the dash board would need to be heavily modified. Also, they probably decided to wait for the design change a few years later to get a different diesel. Also, Dodge had a 7.2 L I6 diesel that was rumored to be a Caterpiller in their Power Wagon concept about 5 years ago. It had a monstrous torque rating (around 700 ft/lbs), but Dodge decided that it was too expensive and "overkill" at the time.
 
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Nither one is as reliable as a DT466!
 
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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How about the CAT fittin' in the 450 or 550. Also to Frost I got my Avatar off of a Animation Creation Website.
 
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Navy_Cowboy_22
How about the CAT fittin' in the 450 or 550. Also to Frost I got my Avatar off of a Animation Creation Website.
I think the 450 and 550 are nearly just the same as the 250 and 350 except it has a beefier suspension.

Sorry for the confusion, but I reffering to johnsdiesel's avatar. Yours is nice though.
 
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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lol, no problem bud. I swear I heard something about them puttin' a CAT in a 450, I guess I was mistaken.
 
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I don't know, I may be wrong. I think it is the same size though. I have looked at several and the only differences I can see is the bigger wheels and a badge that says F-450 or F-550.
 
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The engine compartment in the F450/550 is the same size as the F250/350. The engine still won't fit.
 



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