Pilot inj/c94s
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Originally posted by tn mac
blackhat the reason the early 04/04 need the flash is to disable the pilot injection nothing else, at least that is what I was told.
blackhat the reason the early 04/04 need the flash is to disable the pilot injection nothing else, at least that is what I was told.
The problem as we all now know is…. each flash is accumulative of all. Therefore, from that point on it disables all who ever get the flash.
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Fm Flounder
The dealership gets paid to do these flashes by ford. Maybe thats why they press putting the flash in when you bring it in for service. You need to be sure to tell them you do not want it done.
The dealership gets paid to do these flashes by ford. Maybe thats why they press putting the flash in when you bring it in for service. You need to be sure to tell them you do not want it done.
Not withstanding anything to the contrary contained herein,
I do not authorize any flashing/reflashing of any of this Truck's computers;
This prohibition is of the essence.
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Originally posted by "Luke" SdeS
Consider: Prior to the service writer printing out your work order, have him put this clause in...
Not withstanding anything to the contrary contained herein,
I do not authorize any flashing/reflashing of any of this Truck's computers;
This prohibition is of the essence.
Consider: Prior to the service writer printing out your work order, have him put this clause in...
Not withstanding anything to the contrary contained herein,
I do not authorize any flashing/reflashing of any of this Truck's computers;
This prohibition is of the essence.
Luke thank you, clear and concise direction, everyone needs to read and heed.
Print this and carry it with you!
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Yea "Luke" you are right on this. Also food for thought, after just visiting the Demo Trailer set up on these motors that go from dealer to dealer, the rep said that they are having problems with some dealerships charging ford for the flash when they are not even done. Just another twist to this thing I guess. He also stated not to flash it if it is working right.
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Originally posted by flounder
Yea "Luke" you are right on this. Also food for thought, after just visiting the Demo Trailer set up on these motors that go from dealer to dealer, the rep said that they are having problems with some dealerships charging ford for the flash when they are not even done. Just another twist to this thing I guess. He also stated not to flash it if it is working right.
Yea "Luke" you are right on this. Also food for thought, after just visiting the Demo Trailer set up on these motors that go from dealer to dealer, the rep said that they are having problems with some dealerships charging ford for the flash when they are not even done. Just another twist to this thing I guess. He also stated not to flash it if it is working right.
This goes along with whats going on with my truck, if in fact the oct flash removes pilot injection? My oasis report i posted in my user gallery says the dealer performed the flash, but i still have pilot injection and there is no sticker anywhere on vehicle about it. Is there anywhere we can get proof positive that the oct flash took away pilot injection? Did everyone else that got the oct flash lose their pilot injection? Thanks, John
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I would wait for the next flash and then let them flash it. Since they are accumlative your PI should definitly be gone. I think I heard that there is a Jan one out. Not sure. It is my opinion from what I have read and been told by ford rep that doing away with it will help those old c94s. Flashes were part of fords solution!
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When I visited the PSD demo trailer yesterday, the engineers would not talk about flashes. Neither guy would talk about them. They said that was a different department of Ford.
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When I visited the PSD demo trailer yesterday, the engineers would not talk about flashes. Neither guy would talk about them. They said that was a different department of Ford.
When I visited the PSD demo trailer yesterday, the engineers would not talk about flashes. Neither guy would talk about them. They said that was a different department of Ford.
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Luke thank you, clear and concise direction, everyone needs to read and heed.
Print this and carry it with you!
Luke thank you, clear and concise direction, everyone needs to read and heed.
Print this and carry it with you!
Fm Flounder
they are having problems with some dealerships charging ford for the flash when they are not even done
they are having problems with some dealerships charging ford for the flash when they are not even done
Fm SBV45
When I visited the PSD demo trailer yesterday, the engineers would not talk about flashes. Neither guy would talk about them
When I visited the PSD demo trailer yesterday, the engineers would not talk about flashes. Neither guy would talk about them
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Originally posted by "Luke" SdeS
Interesting that Ford is not being very "transparent" on this subject. Certainly creates the perception of "hiding" something.
Interesting that Ford is not being very "transparent" on this subject. Certainly creates the perception of "hiding" something.
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