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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 05:16 PM
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IPR is reading 64.84 which is good.
65% is actually not good. It means you're not building hydraulic pressure for the injectors. I think you either have a bad HPOP or, of the HPOP was recently installed, the gear is spinning on the shaft from the bolt being under torqued. Those are educated guesses; it could be other things. Those just seem the most likely based on the data.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by robjs111
IPR is reading 64.84 which is good.
This isn’t a reading, it’s just a command. The PCM is commanding 64% IPR.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pikachu
65% is actually not good. It means you're not building hydraulic pressure for the injectors. I think you either have a bad HPOP or, of the HPOP was recently installed, the gear is spinning on the shaft from the bolt being under torqued. Those are educated guesses; it could be other things. Those just seem the most likely based on the data.

so icp or ipr is not the issue at all? Hpop installed in 2018 from riffraff.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 05:51 PM
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What could cause icp to read .23 volts?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 05:58 PM
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What could cause icp to read .23 volts?
Low/no icp pressure. As pressure goes up voltage from sensor will go up.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 06:03 PM
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Am I looking at this correctly, motor spins which drives hpop, lpop and high pressure is controlled by ipr and icp sends info to pcm?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 06:10 PM
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Am I looking at this correctly, motor spins which drives hpop, lpop and high pressure is controlled by ipr and icp sends info to pcm?
Correct. Hpop is spun by top of cam gear. Icp tells pcm what psi it's making. Then pcm tell the ipr valve what to do with the reading from icp. Ipr valve is "dump valve". Hpop is constantly making pressure. The ipr valve opens to dump excess pressure back into the crank depending on what the pcm tells it to do. 10% ipr means it's 10% closed so it's bypassing most of the hpo back to crank case. 65% (which is max) is 65% closed.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 06:12 PM
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Correct. Hpop is spun by top of cam gear. Icp tells pcm what psi it's making. Then pcm tell the ipr valve what to do with the reading from icp. Ipr valve is "dump valve". Hpop is constantly making pressure. The ipr valve opens to dump excess pressure back into the crank depending on what the pcm tells it to do. 10% ipr means it's 10% closed so it's bypassing most of the hpo back to crank case. 65% (which is max) is 65% closed.
hpop is the issue?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 06:14 PM
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Possibly. Hard to say without diagnosing it. Check gear and bolt first. Then they make a dead head test tool that replaces the ipr valve to dead head the pump to see if it makes pressure. Don't just throw a $600+ pump on it without doing more diagnostics.
 
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Any method to actually test hpop to confirm aside from check bolt on gear?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 06:26 PM
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Just started using Forscan but is there a PID to test hpop pressure?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 06:37 PM
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Any method to actually test hpop to confirm aside from check bolt on gear?
Yes. Dead head plug like I mentioned in the comment above.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 06:37 PM
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Just started using Forscan but is there a PID to test hpop pressure?
Yes. Icp pressure and voltage. Which you have already been checking.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2025 | 09:38 PM
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So swash plate pumps don't just quit work very often, and when they do it usually happens catastrophically. Like it's insides become outsides kind of catastrophic. Solenoid valves seldom fail either. The magnetic coil can burn out but even that typically will show signs before just quitting. What can and does fail with little or no warning is wiring and electrical connections. The IPR connector and pigtail are a known trouble spot, and a can fool the passing glance. The wires can actually turn to goo inside the loom. Between age, countless heat cycles, oil/diesel, and the current passing through the wire the insulation can just turn to jelly. The loom has to be removed and stripped back 6-8 inches or so to inspect the wiring for any signs of damage. There is also the possibility of air lock like I mentioned earlier. It wouldn't explain the truck dying on you but it would explain a no start now. As far as the truck dying have we nailed down why the reservoir was empty?
 
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