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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 05:21 PM
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Normal IPR %?




I have about 2000 miles on my brand new motor that I have replaced that has been rebuilt fully from a bus donor. It’s on stock heads EGR delete and deleted emissions. It’s been running fine starting fine and everything has been going perfectly as it should until I went to the store today for about 20 minutes I came back outside. It wouldn’t start up. It would just keep on cranking and cranking and cranking and won’t go over 300 icp. I finally got it started after waiting an about 15 minutes and then got back to the shop to turn it off and then replicate that same problem. Turns out it starts right up and I’ve been here for about an hour trying to replicate what has happened. I’m attaching a snapshot of what my values look once I’m cranking. I sit around 180 F OIL TEMP AND 600 ICP PRESSURE WITH A 23% IPR. AT 700 RMP


Please check the values and let me know if anything seems off right now it’s continuing to work fine like it should. Maybe it just fixed itself and had a little hiccup at the store.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 05:26 PM
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Injectors were replaced a few times because of copper ring failure which I fixed the cause (oil was in hold downs and cup wasn’t clean) (adding this to assist story)
 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 11:08 PM
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IPR 85% means IPR valve fully closed. This indicates a high pressure oil leak.
Pressurerize the system at the IPR port with shop air and check for leaks.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hartwig
IPR 85% means IPR valve fully closed. This indicates a high pressure oil leak.
Pressurerize the system at the IPR port with shop air and check for leaks.

85% was when truck was being cranked which took less than 2 seconds to turn on. Does this still indicate that?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 02:07 PM
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It could also be due to a faulty IPR valve, but I think it is a leak in the HPO system due to the hot-no-start situation.
What ICP and IPR values are displayed when the truck does not start when warm?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 02:33 PM
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Please make this test. Observe the ICP and IPR value when the engine is warm. In the case of leaks, the IPR valve closes completely at idle speed to keep the engine running. When engaging the drive gear / put in drive, the engine usually stops and will not start again until it has cooled down and the oil is a little thicker again.

Four injectors were the problem with this engine.

 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 02:41 PM
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on this engine, this was the issue:




of course, the leak can be at any other location in the HPO system, so if I were you, I would check the ICP and IPR values as already mentioned, and if the suspicion of an HPO leak is confirmed, I would pressurize the system at the IPR valve port.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hartwig
Please make this test. Observe the ICP and IPR value when the engine is warm. In the case of leaks, the IPR valve closes completely at idle speed to keep the engine running. When engaging the drive gear / put in drive, the engine usually stops and will not start again until it has cooled down and the oil is a little thicker again.

Four injectors were the problem with this engine.

https://youtu.be/9xQyoWJa3R8?si=yYRMaqCphLKoESgX

All injectors were replaced with oem new ones btw.

I have the values you asked for below. took it on the highway for about 10 minutes to go eat and turned on right away at the restaurant. These tests below are back at my house after the drive back.

This is idling after the drive back
This is idling after the drive back
This is truck on (engine not started)
This is truck on (engine not started)
This is a snapshot when I was cranking engine over (turned on after 1.5 seconds of cranking)
This is a snapshot when I was cranking engine over (turned on after 1.5 seconds of cranking)
This is right when i switched it into drive
This is right when i switched it into drive
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 04:48 PM
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Seems like it’s fixed itself? Hopefully 😅
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 11:07 PM
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Sporadic issies are difficult to find.I'm not a fan of swapping parts without knowing exactly the issue .Which DTCs are present?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2025 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hartwig
Sporadic issies are difficult to find.I'm not a fan of swapping parts without knowing exactly the issue .Which DTCs are present?
No dtcs Checked with IDS. Only are for trailer brake and instrument cluster. Very weird
 
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That is strange. A no-start situation should set DTCs if too low oil pressure was the cause. Then you have no choice but to observe the values carefully and check all relevant values with IDS immediately in the event of an unusual situation.
 
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