Notices
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L) Diesel Topics Only

'91 E4OD Issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 29, 2024 | 01:28 PM
  #1  
Vercingetorix's Avatar
Vercingetorix
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
'91 E4OD Issues

I’ve got a ‘91 7.3 with an E4OD behind it and I’m experiencing some issues with the transmission. It’s not shifting out of first until 2500 rpm, and shifts are generally a bit rough. Speedo and tach are working properly, and I haven’t seen the overdrive light blink.
I've checked my FIPL/TPS voltages (sensor side only- I'll try to measure them on the computer side). It was out of spec at 1.2v no throttle. I've adjusted it to 1.1v with no perceiveable impact on the shift timing. I also tried 1.0v without any improvement. The max voltage at full throttle remained around 3.5-3.8v for each.

Are there any other obvious things I should check? I don't have an OBD1 scanner or adapter to check for codes- Is there a way to jumper the diagnostic port to flash the codes on the dash?
 
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2024 | 08:59 PM
  #2  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,731
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
Yes, there is. www.troublecodes.net/ford
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2024 | 04:12 PM
  #3  
Vercingetorix's Avatar
Vercingetorix
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
Thanks for the resource, Mark.

I have a few updates. First, the tps/fipl adjustments seemed to have fixed the shift timing issue. Not sure why the new calibration didn't fix it immediately, but the shift timing was fine after it sat overnight. However, it still has an issue in 3rd, and the OD light has started flashing. Went to pull the codes and realized that the self-test connector is mangled and the wires were pulled out.



Thankfully, I was able to find the appropriate wiring diagram with the color codes for the wires:



However, I wasn't able to get the self-test to work. I connected the self test input to the signal return, turned the key to on and pressed down the accelerator (as described in this write up: https://www.fordtruckzone.com/thread...canner.659319/) but the check engine light didn't flash. I'll try it again with a test light just in case the bulb is burnt out. Is there anything else that would prevent the self test from initiating?

EDIT: Yep, the bulb was burnt out. I was able to record the test light with my phone while I pressed the accelerator from the cab. Now to parse through the video and get the codes.
 

Last edited by Vercingetorix; Jul 3, 2024 at 04:33 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2024 | 05:07 PM
  #4  
Vercingetorix's Avatar
Vercingetorix
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
Alright, I've got the codes. I've referenced them with this list (https://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/eec-iv/)

Hard Fault Codes:
  • 93: Converter clutch circuit failure
  • 99: Electronic pressure circuit failure
Continuous Memory Codes:
  • 29: Insufficient input from vehicle speed sensor
  • 67: MLPS out of range (/ AC on?)
    Clutch Switch Circuit Failure
  • 99
Mark, do you have any insight on how I should proceed?
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2024 | 05:42 PM
  #5  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,731
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
The first two to look at are 93 and 99. They are most likely there due to a damaged wiring harness. If the harness checks out electrically, it could be that two solenoids have failed at the same time, or the PCM has had two circuits fail at the same time. I'll bet the wiring harness is the problem.

29 could also be a wiring problem to the vehicle speed sensor (VSS) located on the rear axle. My first step would be to clear the code and see if it returns.

If the AC wasn't turned off when you ran the codes you'll get this code. You'll also get it if the trans wasn't in park when the test ran.

 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2024 | 06:24 PM
  #6  
Vercingetorix's Avatar
Vercingetorix
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
Would there still be symptoms if 93 and 99 are just the result of a damaged harness? I'm honestly not sure if the ac was "on" or not- The system doesn't work and the controls don't seem to either. I'll save that investigation for a later date.

As for checking the Converter Control Circuit and the Electronic Pressure Circuit leads, are these the right wires to check?



 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2024 | 07:34 PM
  #7  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,731
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
Yes, those are correct.
 
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2024 | 12:34 PM
  #8  
Vercingetorix's Avatar
Vercingetorix
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
It's been quite awhile since my last update- life is busy as usual. I was able to get an extremely good deal on a parts truck for a ZF5 swap, so I'll be pursuing that once I am able to get her home. But that leads me into my next set of issues.

Last week, the truck has been blowing fuses 1 (Hazard lamps, Speed Control) and 5 (turn signals, backup lights, and the overdrive circuit). It seems to blow them at random. Sometimes they last for 10-15 minutes, sometimes they blow almost immediately. There isn't any clear correlation that I have found between the fuses blowing and any observable phenomenon. The main issue (aside from no turn signals) is that the transmission will not stay in third gear. It will briefly shift into third before shifting into OD (regardless of the state of the OD switch, or vehicle speed), so I effectively have no third gear.

There may be a short in the MLPS, as fuse 5 is in circuit with it- I'll be checking that shortly. In any case, I really need third gear. Barring a clearly faulty MLPS, Is there any way I can hack into the E4OD wiring harness to forcibly disable overdrive or lock the transmission into third gear while in drive? I only need the transmission to get me there and back, so as long as it is drivable, I don't care how much of a hack job it is.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jul 24, 2024 | 03:50 PM
  #9  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,731
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
To have it always in third gear you need shift solenoid 1 off and shift solenoid 2 on.

Are you sure it's shifting 3-4? Usually the torque converter locks immediately after the 2-3 shift. With the OD off the PCM prevents shifts to fourth gear.
 
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2024 | 05:12 PM
  #10  
Vercingetorix's Avatar
Vercingetorix
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
I’m not 100% certain, but it feels exactly like it’s shifting to OD. It shifts from 2-3 and the rpm’s seem to suggest you are in third, but then the RPMS immediately drop and the engine bogs. It doesn’t seem to be slipping, either.
 

Last edited by Vercingetorix; Jul 24, 2024 at 05:16 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2024 | 05:33 PM
  #11  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,731
Likes: 2,658
From: SE Florida
That could be the torque converter locking.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ponzi.Schemes
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
9
Jul 25, 2023 07:41 PM
Seattleslow
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
2
Mar 3, 2018 10:54 PM
rterril02
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
1
Mar 29, 2016 09:21 PM
Sml Mtr
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
10
Sep 26, 2011 11:47 AM
aeomholt
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
5
May 9, 2008 09:25 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:52 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE