460lover - You're clearly going about this in a thoughtful and responsible manner, which I think most would agree is the key ingredient.

 

Well I'm20 ans still planing on waiting till marraige. But I am in college so it my change, but not likely. But hell, it may be awhile till I get married

 

Thank you, I just don't want to have a woman go through something just because I was horny.

Posted by "theshyguy":

"Well I'm20 ans still planing on waiting till marraige. But I am in college so it my change, but not likely. But hell, it may be awhile till I get married"

I know what you mean, I am 23 and not married yet and I still want to have sex. It might be 5 or 6 years down the road until I get married.

 

Uhhhhh..... NO! Not all other birth control products except condoms work that way. Most work by preventing the sperm and egg from getting togther. Inter vaginal creams kill the sperm before they can reach the uterus. Sponges and diaphrams block the cervex and prevent the sperm from entering. And I also believe IUDs also work by blocking the sperm from reaching the egg, not by iterfering with the fertilized egg after conception.

 

Supercab
I corrected myself on the pill. And no, I did not include the barrier type birth control products, which prevent the swimmers making it to the lake, my bad. But, how do you think IUD's work? Ask your lady friend or doc, then report back to us.

 

Assignment done!

From an Ask Jeves inquiry using "How to Itra Uterine Devices work" The following web page came up.

http://www.addenbrookes.nhs.uk/serv/...a_uterine.html


To quote the page:

"The copper IUD works mostly by producing an inflammatory reaction in the uterus. This causes any sperm arriving there to die. If any do survive and go on to fertilise an egg, then the IUD has a secondary effect of making the lining of the womb unsuitable for the implantation of the fertilised egg. It is this second effect that is relied on when the IUD is used as an ‘after sex’ contraceptive (see emergency contraception.

The IUS works rather differently. The low dose of progestogen that is released constantly in the womb makes the lining of the womb very thin, so that any fertilised egg is unable to implant. However, the effect of the progestogen at the cervix, which thickens the mucus, makes it unlikely that any sperm will get through in the first place. In addition, in some women, and some of the time, the actual release of the egg is inhibited by the progestogen."

So it would appear the primary function of the IUD is to prevent conception. With a SECONDARY function of preventing implantation.

 

Nicely done.
I think we we found that IUD's make a rather hostile environment for swimmers and eggs both.
Thank you, actually, I learned a bit.
The lesson is to use all those neat things, avoid accidents, and thereby avoid surprises. In the intent of this particular thread, 'all those things' includes the rather admirable practice of abstention. People who can do that are admittedly stronger than me.

 

I think a couple should have sex and live together for a year before marriage. I have had girlfriends who were smart, funny, beautiful, etc... but we were not compatible in bed. If I would of married any of them it would of been a horrible disaster. I met my wife my senior year in high school, moved in with her at 19 and was married at 22. I think living together was the best thing for our marriage. Sexually, we are very compatible and both of us got our "sowing our oats" thing out before we met eachother, we both know what it's like out there and are happy with eachother and have no desire to "test the waters" anymore.

 

This is something I've heard time and time again but still don't get it: How can someone be sexually 'incompatable'?

 

Some of my ex girlfriends didn't want to "experiment" and I did. Others were a little to freaky for me. We just didn't click.

 

sexually incompatable can be many things
have you ever met anyone who pushed when they should've pulled
or it can be that you just like different things in bed
a woman who wants french style, and a guy who just won't do anything but spanish style
a guy who likes greek style, and a woman who is repulsed by that
one partner who wants all the lights on, and another who is too shy for this, etc
or it could just be a big difference in how much importance each partner places on sex

 

I've stayed away from responding to this, but couldn't resist. I keep hearing that responsibility is using some type of birth control and that with proper use, birth control is nearly 100% effective. Even if you use it and someone gets pregnant, a lot of people will think "It's not my/our fault 'cause I took precaution". It sure is your fault, responsibility doesn't end with birth control.

Even with a rate of 99.9% or 99.99% effectiveness, we're still talking about many, many thousands of pregnancies per year. Most, if not all, of these cases will involve people who don't want to, can't or aren't ready to deal with the pregnancy. If airplanes had the same accident rate as birth control, the FAA would not allow planes to fly.

We're at a point now where the teenage pregnancy rate has exceeded what it used to be in the '50's. The only difference now is that the pregnancies are occurring outside of marriage, despite all the education kids get. It's appalling and bad for our society to have this occurring today. Most of the kids born to teenage single moms have a very tough life ahead of them. That is a real shame.

 

I have another tidbit of info on birth control. My older sister got pregnant while on the pill. After that child was born, they switched her prescription to another type of pill. She got pregnant again. After that child was born they switched her to yet another type of pill and, you guessed it, pregnant again. After that child she got her tubes tied.
By the way she got married right out of high school and is still married to the same man some 30 years later.

 

The problem is that abstinence until marriage will never be adopted by every single person in society. Admittedly I'm making an assertion here, but to my knowledge no large society has ever done this, ever, in the history of the world. More to the point, an overwhelming majority of Americans will not and do not accept abstinence as their method of birth control. And calling anyone who chooses to use birth control methods and have sex out of wedlock irresponsible seems, well, irresponsible. I agree with you that the responsibilities do not end if birth control fails. There is still a risk that you take.

As for the effectiveness of birth control, all the stories of unwanted pregnancies I've heard (from people I know, a friend of a friend, etc.) don't involve birth control failures but rather the complete lack of birth control methods. Couples using the "Rhythm method", girls who thought they couldn't get pregnant their first time, and "I was drunk" top the list of causes I've heard--not birth control failure.

This is not to say that birth control is 100% effective, although I would say that your chances of getting in a car accident (no matter how responsibly you drive) are many times greater than getting pregnant if you use reliable birth control methods responsibly. (My current lifetime score is three fender-benders and zero unwanted pregnancies.)

 

many birth control failures are due to misuse
condoms burst if you pinch them and weaken the laytex
pills can't work if you forget to take them
I'm not saying birth control is 100%, but operator error does happen