7.3 Godzilla issues
Logistics Pro
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I know of 2 diesel techs I was in the army with who will not own a diesel newer than the 7.3L powerstroke. One drives a Toyota Camry and the other an older kia because parts are cheap to replace and everything is exposed an able to be worked on easily. When you make your bread and butter with diesels the shop will always be full. I learned that driving cross country and having multiple breakdowns. Call ever diesel shop within an hour and ALL of them are booked for weeks. Drive by a diesel shop and the parking lots have almost no space for any new vehicles to park. The EPA is making diesel mechanics rich.
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I have no dog in this fight (well, I guess to be more accurate I have both dogs!); as I have a 2022 PSD and a 2023 7.3. I believe that both engines are good engines and I also believe, after a couple years of reading/watching/researching that the 7.3 is a well built and reliable engine. The diesel obviously has more power and while I believe it's also a great engine, it is far more complicated (thanks EPA!) and is much more likely to cost more money in the long term.....the 7.3 has enough power for the majority of SD Owners and will cost less to buy and less to keep running - the exception will be if you buy new and trade in before the warranty is up as you'll likely recover the premium up front cost of the diesel. I keep my trucks until they have 300,000+ miles on them so long term repair and expenses are a thing. I don't get the antagonistic diesel vs gas Super Duty's argument - both have their place.
Dave
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I know of 2 diesel techs I was in the army with who will not own a diesel newer than the 7.3L powerstroke. One drives a Toyota Camry and the other an older kia because parts are cheap to replace and everything is exposed an able to be worked on easily. When you make your bread and butter with diesels the shop will always be full. I learned that driving cross country and having multiple breakdowns. Call ever diesel shop within an hour and ALL of them are booked for weeks. Drive by a diesel shop and the parking lots have almost no space for any new vehicles to park. The EPA is making diesel mechanics rich.
This has been the most reliable and enjoyable truck I've owned to date
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So it's well established if you tow heavy and want a no drama experience get the diesel. What is a bit surprising is this owners experience of the 7.3 vs the 6.2.
Enjoy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdr66dvVDGc
Enjoy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdr66dvVDGc
Logistics Pro
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So it's well established if you tow heavy and want a no drama experience get the diesel. What is a bit surprising is this owners experience of the 7.3 vs the 6.2.
Enjoy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdr66dvVDGc
Enjoy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdr66dvVDGc
So far my 2012 6.7PSD truck repairs have been 1 Nox Sensor, 4 EGT sensors (known issue on '11-'12 trucks), passenger side hub, AC compressor, Alternator, condenser coil, body mounts. So after owning this truck for 10 years 266k miles the repair costs for the non diesel items far exceed the cost for the diesel specific items.
This has been the most reliable and enjoyable truck I've owned to date
This has been the most reliable and enjoyable truck I've owned to date
Cargo Master
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From: Ridgway, CO
So it's well established if you tow heavy and want a no drama experience get the diesel. What is a bit surprising is this owners experience of the 7.3 vs the 6.2.
Enjoy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdr66dvVDGc
Enjoy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdr66dvVDGc
I will never understand the notion that an engine and transmission going about its business is somehow dramatic...i have never felt the least bit stressed running big weight behind my 7.3 even at high altitude. I have had diesels and I just do not understand this claim. The Zilla sounds AWESOME for the very brief amount of time it needs higher revs. The notion that you are going to be going down the highway at 4000 rpm is beyond absurd and not even close to accurate. Even 4000 rpm isn't even close to enough to make me want to turn up the radio yet you DIS folks tell this lie constantly...
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There is no end to one-off videos on the 'net. For every one of those videos, there are one of these (pick the one that fits your bias, LOL);
7.3 godzilla towing 24k lbs through the rockies. - YouTube
7.3 godzilla towing 24k lbs through the rockies. - YouTube
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Armatures youtube videos are your source? That explains a LOT I will never understand the notion that an engine and transmission going about its business is somehow dramatic...i have never felt the least bit stressed running big weight behind my 7.3 even at high altitude. I have had diesels and I just do not understand this claim. The Zilla sounds AWESOME for the very brief amount of time it needs higher revs. The notion that you are going to be going down the highway at 4000 rpm is beyond absurd and not even close to accurate. Even 4000 rpm isn't even close to enough to make me want to turn up the radio yet you DIS folks tell this lie constantly...
I will never understand the notion that an engine and transmission going about its business is somehow dramatic...i have never felt the least bit stressed running big weight behind my 7.3 even at high altitude. I have had diesels and I just do not understand this claim. The Zilla sounds AWESOME for the very brief amount of time it needs higher revs. The notion that you are going to be going down the highway at 4000 rpm is beyond absurd and not even close to accurate. Even 4000 rpm isn't even close to enough to make me want to turn up the radio yet you DIS folks tell this lie constantly...
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Tulare U.S.A.
Those guys in the video cant make up their minds. First, they say to go to the 6.7 for power then they say to stay with the 6.2 if you are buying a gas motor. I traded my 2011 CC SB 4X4 6.2L gas with 3.73 gears for a 2022 Tremor 7.3L CC SB with 4.30 gears and I can tell you the difference is huge. Pulling the same 11,500-pound toy hauler I can hold 60 mph up a 6% grade at 4000 RPMs with the 6.2L I was at 50mph and 4500 RPMs. Gas mileage is almost the same and the 7.3 should get better with time as it only has 5000 miles on it. Another thing in the video was the towing stability of the Tremor not being as good, I will say that there is little to no difference in stability between my two trucks. Maybe he didn't have the hitch set up properly on the Tremor. The biggest thing between the two gas motors is 7.3 has a much wider torque curve than the 6.2. I liked the 6.2 and had zero problems with that engine the entire time I owned it. I did nothing to it but air filters oil changes and spark plugs to the 6.2L.
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Those guys in the video cant make up their minds. First, they say to go to the 6.7 for power then they say to stay with the 6.2 if you are buying a gas motor. I traded my 2011 CC SB 4X4 6.2L gas with 3.73 gears for a 2022 Tremor 7.3L CC SB with 4.30 gears and I can tell you the difference is huge. Pulling the same 11,500-pound toy hauler I can hold 60 mph up a 6% grade at 4000 RPMs with the 6.2L I was at 50mph and 4500 RPMs. Gas mileage is almost the same and the 7.3 should get better with time as it only has 5000 miles on it. Another thing in the video was the towing stability of the Tremor not being as good, I will say that there is little to no difference in stability between my two trucks. Maybe he didn't have the hitch set up properly on the Tremor. The biggest thing between the two gas motors is 7.3 has a much wider torque curve than the 6.2. I liked the 6.2 and had zero problems with that engine the entire time I owned it. I did nothing to it but air filters oil changes and spark plugs to the 6.2L.
I think his issue with the Tremor is the taller sidewall tires can make the truck feel a bit unstable vs a shorter side wall will make it feel more stable.
