Must have struck a nerve with how worked up you are.

Where on earth has someone been claiming diesel truck ownership is cheap relative to gasser trucks? Lol

Just for the record I have access to all three (6.2, 7.3 & 6.7) and I can tell you which one I’m using for the heavy trailers. I’m not blind to the benefits of each (hence why we have a few of each) and I don’t need to justify anything to this forum. I have driven them all plenty of times to form my own opinion on the best tool for each job.

I always take an open minded look at options and choose the one that’s best for the job it’s that simple. Whether certain trucks are good to own past warranty won’t matter to me because I likely won’t either way. With the electronics and everything (regardless of engine) they can get expensive quick as they age.

 

I wonder what you expect when you make false and derogatory statements about others choices? Stating the 7.3 doesn't tow well is just ridiculous and untrue as evidenced by thousands of people happily doing so.

So you aren't going back to gas and I am not going back to diesel. Your comments in a thread that was never about diesel SHOULD strike a nerve with anybody reading, especially with all the falsehoods you included in that post. Now trying to portrait me as somehow irrational is the icing on the cake and expected because you are unable to defend those stupid claims you made where they didn't belong. Equally as entertaining is the inference that maybe only you have an open mind when making decisions. I guess us gasser guys are all just too stupid and narrow minded to see your ultimate diesel buying wisdom. Can't you see how ridiculous that is?

 

there were no false claims. Compared to the 6.7. It doesn’t do well.

towing well is a matter of opinion, and it’s relative to the other things that we may or may not be able to used to accomplish the same job.

if you really want to get down to it, there’s a good percentage of this forum that could use an F150 & don’t need a super duty at all. But it wouldn’t be the best tool for the job would it?

the only valid point you have is about the titled the thread so I will agree to disagree on the rest. Good day sir!

 

Good on you for doing your research and I don't blame you for being concerned. Failure posts on social media as well as this forum account for a small amount of failures made public. It's not hard to go to a dealer, make friends with the service manager and get the download from them. The cylinder issues and lifter issues are more common than some of these guys want to accept. Get the diesel.

 

Probably less 7.3 lifter failures with "a million" engines out there, than valve guide failures on the LS7, of which only 28K engines were made.

 

The major of the 7.3 failures that I’ve seen on YouTube and read about have been on F450 and bigger trucks, box trucks and motor homes which all use a different version of the 7.3 and the failure are rare.

You don’t have to look very hard to find 6.7 Power Stroke failures, they’re common. For whatever reason there’s one or two 6.7 failures a week just on this forum alone. My favorite is the $12k CP4 failure that Ford doesn’t have repair parts for because they’re using every available part for production instead. Nice job of honoring your warranty obligations Ford Motor Company!

 

Lack of parts for warranty repair IS a serious problem.

 

Thanks for sharing some realistic feedback and not some biased buzz. We also had a 2017 6.2 and it had it's place as well.

Hopefully we get our F350 7.3 godzilla soon and I'll hook it up to one of our water tanks and give it a world. Having said that, this will not be what its intended for, but this will be a good test for low end torque and breaking ability for comparison

 

Don't let anyone scare you from the 6.7L Powerstroke. The 6.7L is a prenominal engines and its not hard to find them with 300K miles plus trouble free. The answer to preventing CP4 failure is simple, keep your fuel system clean. These pumps are very sensitive to contaminates and lack of lubrication. It all comes down to poor maintenance. Change your filters as often as you can afford to, every 10k to 20k miles. You would be amazed how many go 30k to 50K before changing these filters. When filters get clogged, they don't allow sufficient fuel flow to the pump. You would also be surprised how many people accidentally put gas in their trucks, once you do that...it's over, that pump is gone.

If you plan to pull a large fifth wheel or travel trailer, One thing people don't always think about is getting fuel. It's much easier to get fuel in the truck lanes at the truck stops and to do that you need a diesel. I'm sure some will chime in and say I never have a problem getting fuel. Also, if you plan to go out west with your camper, you'll be glad you got the diesel. If and when you decide to sell your truck or trade it in, you'll have far less depreciation with the diesel. We could turn this thread into an diesel vs gas debate...but lets be real gas never beats diesel for anything. The world runs on diesel...so should you.

 

For what it's worth, i never had a diesel and when i ordered my F350 back in early Feb this year, i decided to go with the HO. I don't tow much, and when i do, it's short distance, and don't really need a diesel. Then i got talking with the service manager, a honest, straight shooting kind of guy. He literally talked me out of the diesel and into the 7.3 by explaining the difference in maintenance costs and requirements, besides the significantly higher diesel prices around here in Ontario, Canada. So, i changed my order to the gasser, the largest engine i ever had. I know it by itself is more than enough, but if i was actually using the diesel power/torque on a regular basis, i'd run with it. Just to get it for the hell of it to carry my rear end around, it's not worth the additional 13k cost of getting it plus expenses. Heck, i dont even need a 350. My 150 does everything i ask, but just got to have at least one S.D. Next truck might be a Ranger. Each to their own...

 

I picked the 7.3 when I asked for a quote from Granger this morning because I can buy a lot of gas for $13,000. I figured it would take 7 years to break even on a diesel over the 7.3 and thats if I didn't have any problems with the diesel engine and not including DEF. Oddly enough, I'm coming from a 2020 Ranger that I'm towing with now, but I want a bigger trailer, so I need a truck that can tow a bigger trailer. I'm going to miss my ranger. Its a fun truck.

 

DiEsEl cAn ToW iT FaStEr... The speed limit is the same for both so I'm pretty sure they will both get you there at the same time if you are trying to be legal.

Good thing I didn't buy my truck for resale value cause that is always the #1 thing on a diesel bros mind. How easily will I be able to unload this thing when I get to scared to own it any longer? Gotta keep that hype up about the diesel because who is going to take that time bomb off their hands if everyone is aware of how unpredictable and expensive to repair they are? Buying a used diesel is the biggest gamble most individuals will make in their life. Did the previous owner ever change fuel filters? Did they do proper maintenance or just drive it like a car and dump it for a new diesel with a warranty?

Now back to the topic. Still a lot less issues with the 7.3 putters than 6.7s so if you own an RV and want piece of mind you can get a 7.3 and we still haven't heard of an 2023s with issues. Very very very few 2022s have been reported on here if only 1.
You could roll the dice with the 6.7L and risk a bent rod, oil pan leak, cp4 failure because you aren't doing an aqua glow test at every fuel station. If you think truck stops are immune because of whatever reason you are foolish. It is possible to get contaminated diesel fuel anywhere on earth and you are just rolling the dice with every fill up. How about nox sensors? Def errors and limp mode. Have fun with your time bombs. I'll keep changing my oil and if the engine blows outside of warranty I can replace it for the price of a turbo and injectors installed on a 6.7L.

 

They’ll both get there at the same time as long as the diesel doesn’t have a failure.

 

Ive been steering my customer base towards gas engines for a long enough time now. None and I do mean none of them that have taken that advise have gone back to a diesel engine. Yes of course they miss the extra power but they dont miss the higher operating costs and much enjoy that extra money in their pocket. The 7.3L is making my customers happy who are operating F600s. This year and next I have another handful of 6.7L owners (F450-F600) switching over to the 7.3L. All my F250/F350 customers are already in 6.2L and soon to be 6.8L gas. Im actually going to have to take on another 50+ trucks in order to keep my 9-5 techs working without diesels to keep us busy.

 

What a load of crap.