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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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Snake oil?

This part has been on the market for a few years. Nothing but crickets and can't find anyone that has ever tried them. A few threads debating whether or not it would work but that's it. I figure that it's worth discussing since it is a 7.3 "upgrade??" that has no real reviews.

https://shop.fullforcediesel.com/ffd-hpop-rail-system
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 08:30 PM
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Little bit more and you can actually replace the weak hpop that's 20 years old. lol never seen those before.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 09:29 PM
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Looks like the only review is from Phillip who is likely the same Phillip thats is one of their sales guys
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ESwift
Looks like the only review is from Phillip who is likely the same Phillip thats is one of their sales guys
I noticed that as well, and not a very solid review at that. Figured someone would take a chance on them by now and expose if they are worthless or not.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 06:59 AM
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All it does is reduce the volume inside the cylinder head oil rail? I am not understanding their description.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by oharal
All it does is reduce the volume inside the cylinder head oil rail? I am not understanding their description.
That’s the way I read it too.

The logic doesn’t seem to make sense to me. The injectors will use the same volume regardless. I would think reducing available volume in the rail would cause the pressure to fluctuate more during each injection. It would also reduce the overall flow rate.

I agree, the review sounded bogus. More of a sales pitch than a review.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 07:24 AM
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The injectors will use the same volume regardless. [...] It would also reduce the overall flow rate.
You had it, but then ya lost it The flow rate is dictated by the injector oil demand and the rest goes over the IPR back to the starting line. I'm definitely voting snake oil.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 07:34 AM
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Probably anyone who has bought it was too embarrassed to leave a review 😂
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitterroot Diesel
Probably anyone who has bought it was too embarrassed to leave a review 😂
If it didn't work it would be more embarrassing for FFD.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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It's hard for me to comprehend how reducing the volume available to the injectors was worth this effort. Maybe trying to make the HPOP system act like a dual pump setup, but on a smaller scale?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 06:03 AM
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It's hard for me to comprehend how reducing the volume available to the injectors was worth this effort. Maybe trying to make the HPOP system act like a dual pump setup, but on a smaller scale?
Something to do with decreasing the volume of the chamber nets less of a psi drop in the system to refill said chamber. Resulting in more sustained psi to the injectors. ????
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 08:11 AM
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I can see where it would make the HPOP system more responsive to pressure variations.
I'm waiting for someone to come out with a high volume common rail system. Sled pullers would be all over that one.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 08:16 AM
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I can see where it would make the HPOP system more responsive to pressure variations.
I'm waiting for someone to come out with a high volume common rail system. Sled pullers would be all over that one.



Already on the market for a while
 
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I would think that would make the IPR and ICP work a lot harder on demanding and supplying oil. I get the basic concept but the fluctuations due to the decreased overall volume to the system would probably cause a decreased lifespan of some components.

there is too much snake in that snake oil for me
 
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Old Dec 24, 2022 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 97-psd
I would think that would make the IPR and ICP work a lot harder on demanding and supplying oil. I get the basic concept but the fluctuations due to the decreased overall volume to the system would probably cause a decreased lifespan of some components.

there is too much snake in that snake oil for me
According to FFD it causes the opposite and is easier on parts because they aren't working as hard. Someone needs to be the snake oil tester, if it works then it's not snake oil.
 
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