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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 4by4ord
So long as everything is working as it should, towing a properly loaded gooseneck tandem dually equipment trailer weighing 22,000 lbs with a newer F350 SRW diesel can be done safely and very comfortably. However, one safety concern that I would like the manufacturers to address is the potential for a poor electrical connection from the truck to the trailer. Any trailer over about 8,000 lbs behind a pick up (regardless of whether or not it has duals) needs properly functioning brakes to be safe. In my opinion the 7 way trailer connector put on our trucks is not capable of providing a dependable connection to reliably operate electric trailer brakes.
Well, I guess your new job will be to come up with a better system tnen!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:09 PM
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23k with a SRW 350 is no problem if the driver has some common sense. The common sense part is what seems to be missing around here
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 4by4ord
So long as everything is working as it should, towing a properly loaded gooseneck tandem dually equipment trailer weighing 22,000 lbs with a newer F350 SRW diesel can be done safely and very comfortably.
Originally Posted by Mx113
23k with a SRW 350 is no problem if the driver has some common sense. The common sense part is what seems to be missing around here.
For the record, I wasn't saying the SRW trucks aren't capable of towing their limits, however, if I were planning to be towing that much weight routinely, then I would have bought a DRW to begin with.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:16 PM
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You could always replace the 7-pin connector with a MIL-STD-38999 connector. Should be fairly easy and they are robust enough for the engines on the F-22/F-35.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:23 PM
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If you want to tow 30K with your F-250, you can as long as you are registered for it. As far as the law is concerned, it comes down to the registration on the vehicle in how much weight it can carry provided the axle, wheel, and tires are within the ratings for the load. The wear and tear OTOH is all on you, so be prepared when schiznit breaks.

There is a saying, the right tool for the job,, just because a tool could do the job, doesn't mean it should. You can break rocks with a 16 ounce hammer, but a 5 pound sledge does it so much better with less work. What you gain with a DRW is a stiffer suspension and more stability. This becomes very apparent when towing something long and tall.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mx113
23k with a SRW 350 is no problem...
What's the weight on that rear axle?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 7.3F350
What's the weight on that rear axle?
I do not know. Approximately 22,700 pounds total (865 pound bales of hay and 8,000 pound trailer)

Of course there are limits. We use a dually with the bigger trailer



 

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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 04:55 PM
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Wild guess, but 5700 pounds of pin weight. With the span between pin and front axle, there is at least 25% pin weight.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter
For the record, I wasn't saying the SRW trucks aren't capable of towing their limits, however, if I were planning to be towing that much weight routinely, then I would have bought a DRW to begin with.
I might look at things similar to you. No matter what truck I buy I'm going to be making a compromise. I could get by with a Honda Ridgeline to do 50% of what I do with my F350 SRW short box. About 10% of the time an F450 would be the perfect match for the job. I'd rather push the little truck's limits the odd time than be sized right for the heavy load and feel way over trucked 90% of the time.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Semantics, either way "upgraded" or "new", it is in some way changed which may contribute to higher ratings.
i hear ya but remember last time they did a axle upgrade. ended up costing them over 30k recalls . better give em a year or two and work the kinks out lol
 
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Old Dec 4, 2022 | 03:49 AM
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Hydro boosted brakes help.
Not all come with it though.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2022 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 4by4ord
I might look at things similar to you. No matter what truck I buy I'm going to be making a compromise. I could get by with a Honda Ridgeline to do 50% of what I do with my F350 SRW short box. About 10% of the time an F450 would be the perfect match for the job. I'd rather push the little truck's limits the odd time than be sized right for the heavy load and feel way over trucked 90% of the time.
Well said.

I have a fleet of Ford, My truck is a 550 (most of my "work" is traveling) when I'm in town, I drive a diesel 350 or a gasser 150 back and forth to my shop.

I truly prefer my 550.

These advertised towing numbers mean nothing to me. I look at the hardware, see what it's rated at.

So I was thinking about the 40K package on the F-450. Both of my big trailers take a 3 inch ball (both rated at 40k). I wonder how Ford is going to handle this. I'm assuming the plate will need to have a larger hole for the bigger ball but also need to accommodate the smaller 2 5/16.

Been thinking about ordering a 50K gooseneck.... More fuel for thought !
 
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Old Dec 4, 2022 | 03:35 PM
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Even my 2004 (NON HD) Chevy 2500 light duty 6.0 gas came with hydro boost brakes, my 2022 f250 7.3 does not, disappointing!
 
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Old Dec 4, 2022 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GAZZILLA
Even my 2004 (NON HD) Chevy 2500 light duty 6.0 gas came with hydro boost brakes, my 2022 f250 7.3 does not, disappointing!
All the big companies have realized that they can make more money by removing the standard items and then bundling them with certain packages or trims or models that ultimately cost more!
 
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Old Dec 4, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GAZZILLA
Even my 2004 (NON HD) Chevy 2500 light duty 6.0 gas came with hydro boost brakes, my 2022 f250 7.3 does not, disappointing!
Yeah my 22 2500 has Hydra boost brakes too. Why don’t the Fords?
 
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