and I want to keep it as long as my house... 
View Poll Results: at 25% oil-life today
do nothing till the oil-life indicator says to
29
28.16%
change filter only & do the full oil & filter change when the oil-life is done
0
0%
change filter and oil early, if it bothers you that much
74
71.84%
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Oil change concerns
Cargo Master
Joined: Jul 2021
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From: Ridgway, CO
My first change was around 2500 miles.
Changing the filter now and not the oil, because you think it is good for another 2500 miles or so is one of the craziest questions I have seen asked here. I think EVERYBODY who has read your question is asking themselves WHY? Good Luck...
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Laughing Gas
Joined: Dec 2021
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From: PG, BC, Canada
I am not sure what makes you think the filter is going to be "plugged" before the oil is past it's useful life. I have no idea what you are thinking by going through the trouble of changing the filter and not the oil. It is an expensive truck and you already missed the boat on a real early change to protect your investment. Spend the extra $50 and do the oil and filter together. The oil monitor is just a freaking timer, it isn't like it samples the oil in any way. It isn't telling you the "oil is good" it is telling you it probably is.
My first change was around 2500 miles.
Changing the filter now and not the oil, because you think it is good for another 2500 miles or so is one of the craziest questions I have seen asked here. I think EVERYBODY who has read your question is asking themselves WHY? Good Luck...
My first change was around 2500 miles.
Changing the filter now and not the oil, because you think it is good for another 2500 miles or so is one of the craziest questions I have seen asked here. I think EVERYBODY who has read your question is asking themselves WHY? Good Luck...
I do think out of the box sometimes... But, because of the "recent\' advances in oils % engine technology for cleaner engines, it actually seems to be a pertinent question. NO...???
I remember 20 years ago every manufacturer saying X,XXX oil change regardless of oil type, and the oil manufacturer saying XX,XXX... Synthetic oils were regarded just like regular oils... and... guess what... they are NOT, like regular oils...
Hotshot
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 12,338
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From: SW VA
These “oil life monitors” are one of the dumbest thing the auto makers have added in recent times. They just lead to confusion (as seen in this, and many other threads here), and lead to people ignoring uniform maintenance schedules.
There have been many accounts of cough*women*cough that have ruined engines because the OLM stopped working. They just kept driving it, never getting an oil change, because the car didn’t tell them to.
It helps feed the brain-dead idiot generation that thinks something else (the car) will think for them.
There have been many accounts of cough*women*cough that have ruined engines because the OLM stopped working. They just kept driving it, never getting an oil change, because the car didn’t tell them to.
It helps feed the brain-dead idiot generation that thinks something else (the car) will think for them.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Apr 2017
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From: Lost in the Ozone....
I agree with many others, I don't get changing just the filter. Makes no sense to me. The oil is a carrier (and by design) of the impurities. Get that crap out of the engine as soon as you can. Personally, I changed mine initially at 2,500 and now change every 4k (~48% life of the 7,500 recommended for my 2019). It helps me sleep better. On the 2019 gas SDs, the OLM is strictly mileage based and I certainly wouldn't trust it to 'alert' me. Oil and filter changes are reasonably cheap and easy to do.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jul 2019
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See... There's the rub... Old school thinking... Oil today is NOT the same as oil 40 years ago... Engines are not the same... Thus, Longer oil & filter times have become a norm... WITHOUT, the old school problems associated with inferior oil and dirty engines and filters that can be plugged up easer of the old school era... Thus I am trying to find the real world experience of people on here with oil changes...
I do think out of the box sometimes... But, because of the "recent\' advances, it actually seems to be a pertinent question. NO...???
I do think out of the box sometimes... But, because of the "recent\' advances, it actually seems to be a pertinent question. NO...???
Change your oil and filter now; or change your filter only now and the oil and filter when the IOLM indicates; or wait and change oil and filter for the first time when the IOLM indicates; whatever you choose of those 3 will have little to no effect on your engine life.
You will get a lot of opinions on this forum that will span all the oil change interval possibilities. You are better off just doing what feels good to you. Changing early won't hurt anything. At 100K Km when your engine is still humming along you can feel good that you did everything you could to get there. Enjoy your truck.
Tuned
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 348
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Looks like I'm with the majority. I never just change the filter. Oil and filters are inexpensive and new makes me feel better. I expect over 200k miles from my vehicles, so they deserve clean oil.
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You are pissing into the wind. These threads never go anywhere useful. If anyone wants to take this seriously, then spend 50 bucks and get a full oil analysis. You want the standard analysis, the oil life analysis, and the soot analysis (diesel). I get the standard and the soot analysis. That way, I don't have to wonder things related to my maintenance plan. I have the data. If you don't care about data, then keep doing what yer pappy done told you.
Laughing Gas
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However, the manual also states the Specification as Ford WSS-M2C961-A1. (noted by orange marks)
Mobil1 Advanced Full Synthetic 5W-30 has the API symbol, but is not listed as meeting the specific Ford spec.
Mobil1 Truck & SUV 5W-30 full synthetic IS listed as meeting the Ford WSS-M2C961-A1 spec.
I’ve not used Mobil1 Truck & SUV before so don’t know how widely it’s available on the shelf in my town. Having seen a couple posts about 7.3 engine failure, it’s probably a smart move to use oil that meets the specific Ford spec just to be safe and CYA. I need to do some more homework on oils that meet that spec.
Lead Driver
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,308
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From: Hartford, WI
These “oil life monitors” are one of the dumbest thing the auto makers have added in recent times. They just lead to confusion (as seen in this, and many other threads here), and lead to people ignoring uniform maintenance schedules.
There have been many accounts of cough*women*cough that have ruined engines because the OLM stopped working. They just kept driving it, never getting an oil change, because the car didn’t tell them to.
It helps feed the brain-dead idiot generation that thinks something else (the car) will think for them.
There have been many accounts of cough*women*cough that have ruined engines because the OLM stopped working. They just kept driving it, never getting an oil change, because the car didn’t tell them to.
It helps feed the brain-dead idiot generation that thinks something else (the car) will think for them.
Don't know. How many are we talking about vs how many there are out there? Percentages tells me things. I haven't run into an oil life monitor failure yet. Close to 500K on a 99 E300 Turbodiesel (although that has an oil life monitor) and 3 other MBs, the C7 and this one is too new.
That is the confusion. It doesn't think for you. It monitors things for you.
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From: Hartford, WI
Hotshot
Joined: Mar 2017
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From: Chaz
I go to 20-30% on my v6 gas f150s because they will take you 9-10k on a change if you wait to 0%. On the 6.2s I have had they idle a lot so 5,000 is fair.
On the diesel you are getting some highway miles because mine would be close to 0% around 7500.
I sold my last 6.7 truck and its still on my fordpass. Changed the oil at around 14k miles (second change) and sold it at 20k. Got alerts once they put around 21k on it to change it. Has 46k on it now and they still haven’t changed it (or at least reset the light). I was going to take it off but I am rooting to see how long it goes.
On the diesel you are getting some highway miles because mine would be close to 0% around 7500.
I sold my last 6.7 truck and its still on my fordpass. Changed the oil at around 14k miles (second change) and sold it at 20k. Got alerts once they put around 21k on it to change it. Has 46k on it now and they still haven’t changed it (or at least reset the light). I was going to take it off but I am rooting to see how long it goes.
Hotshot
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 12,338
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From: SW VA
Where is the confusion? I tested the monitors against a lab analysis. I haven't tested the F250 yet but I will.
Don't know. How many are we talking about vs how many there are out there? Percentages tells me things. I haven't run into an oil life monitor failure yet. Close to 500K on a 99 E300 Turbodiesel (although that has an oil life monitor) and 3 other MBs, the C7 and this one is too new.
That is the confusion. It doesn't think for you. It monitors things for you.
Don't know. How many are we talking about vs how many there are out there? Percentages tells me things. I haven't run into an oil life monitor failure yet. Close to 500K on a 99 E300 Turbodiesel (although that has an oil life monitor) and 3 other MBs, the C7 and this one is too new.
That is the confusion. It doesn't think for you. It monitors things for you.