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Looked down into the dizzy hole and saw this chunk of aluminum just sitting there, magnet wouldn't grab it (why I knew it is aluminum, I tried to get a corner of it with a curved pick and it dropped down. I obviously need to remove it before starting the engine but...
do you have any idea what this could be?
the truck ran fine last time I drove it, back it 2011 put a few thousand miles on it, got it running again a few weeks ago turned first twist everytime didn't sound funny...maybe a slight tick on the driver's side bank.
Yikes, whatever it is it got squished between something in there. You'd best at least pull the oil pan and get it out, then time for a closer look. if it belongs in the engine it's important, they don't just put parts in there for fun.
Yikes, whatever it is it got squished between something in there. You'd best at least pull the oil pan and get it out, then time for a closer look. if it belongs in the engine it's important, they don't just put parts in there for fun.
I also posted this in my build post, that's kinda the consensus is to take off the oil pan and document the findings. I've got a few more things to button up on the engine bay and to put the I-beams back in, and install the new front brakes first. Then I'll drop the tranny, lift the engine and pull the oil pan and find out what kind of problems I'm facing... Seeing as how I found parts of a bearing in the starter hole, I'm guessing it's the tranny front bearing parts since that chunk was aluminum.... But I haven't taken one of these trucks apart to know where everything is exactly and where it could end up.
I'll get to this over the next couple weeks, gotta get my vegetable garden planted the next couple days so will have to wait on the truck til I'm done
Seeing as how I found parts of a bearing in the starter hole, I'm guessing it's the tranny front bearing parts since that chunk was aluminum.... But I haven't taken one of these trucks apart to know where everything is exactly and where it could end up.
If it is the post I think it is someone said it was part of the starter in the starter hole.
There is no way that chunk is from the transmission as there is NO WAY it could get from the trans to the inside of the motor from out side.
You said you tried to use a pick to get it out, how about a 3 finger pick up tool to grab it and pull it up?
Dave ----
Then I'll drop the tranny, lift the engine and pull the oil pan and find out what kind of problems I'm facing... Seeing as how I found parts of a bearing in the starter hole, I'm guessing it's the tranny front bearing parts since that chunk was aluminum.
Just so you know, you don't have to drop the transmission to get to the pan. Part of the beauty of the steps I sent on the other thread is that the transmission mount point acts as a pivot when you jack the engine up 3 inches or so. It should then have enough room to slide back under the transmission after you get the oil take up out of the way. I wanted to make sure that was clear.
Of course you could take the tranny off too and do the clutch and the rear main seal while you're there. With the pan off, you should have a bit more vision on the cause of any issues.
Just so you know, you don't have to drop the transmission to get to the pan. Part of the beauty of the steps I sent on the other thread is that the transmission mount point acts as a pivot when you jack the engine up 3 inches or so. It should then have enough room to slide back under the transmission after you get the oil take up out of the way. I wanted to make sure that was clear.
Of course you could take the tranny off too and do the clutch and the rear main seal while you're there. With the pan off, you should have a bit more vision on the cause of any issues.
In his "rebuild" thread he want to pull the trans as it is covered in dirt & grease, wants to clean it replace the output bearing & seal.
Dave ----
Just thinking about a possible source for that piece of aluminum...I don't know my 302's but:
How does the bottom of the dizzy look? Is it intact?
Piece of the dizzy clamp, perhaps?
Oil pump primer shield? When I primed my 360, this aluminum shield was always in danger of sliding off the shaft unless I pinned it with my finger when taking the shaft out.
Other than to say it couldn't have naturally come from anywhere around or in that dizzy hole, this one has me scratching my head!
Hate a mystery that makes no sense...
Just thinking about a possible source for that piece of aluminum...I don't know my 302's but:
How does the bottom of the dizzy look? Is it intact?
Piece of the dizzy clamp, perhaps?
Oil pump primer shield? When I primed my 360, this aluminum shield was always in danger of sliding off the shaft unless I pinned it with my finger when taking the shaft out.
Other than to say it couldn't have naturally come from anywhere around or in that dizzy hole, this one has me scratching my head!
Hate a mystery that makes no sense...
Geoff
No visible damage at all to dizzy, and it ran fine before I removed it. There's not a clamp that I can see anywhere on the dizzy or the new one there's a little u shaped 1/2" thick bracket with a screw in it to hold it down.
I haven't taken the oil pan off yet, but I will post pictures and updates when I do.
It looks like part of a cam bearing. There will be a bearing right in front of the gear and one a few inches behind it.
And unless this is a later model engine you have to drop the pan to change the rear main seal.
I wonder if this engine has been rebuilt? I think you are getting close to puling this engine apart. That chunk of metal scares me and it's not my truck!
I wonder if this engine has been rebuilt? I think you are getting close to puling this engine apart. That chunk of metal scares me and it's not my truck!
Yeah, me too. I am pretty certain it's not been rebuilt. It kinda took a little wind out of my sails finding that. I'll be taking off the oil pan in the coming weeks to see if I can find the culprit.
It looks like part of a cam bearing. There will be a bearing right in front of the gear and one a few inches behind it.
And unless this is a later model engine you have to drop the pan to change the rear main seal.
Cam bearing was going to be my guess as well. Since it's literally right there.
