Done with Ford...
Cross-Country
Joined: Mar 2018
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A growing percentage of American furniture is made in Vietnam. Vietnam is shut down with Covid. Take one link out of the chain, and it all falls apart. Say what you want about Covid, but once you have it, you’ll respect it …if you survive it.
Once it arrives by container ship, how long will that ship remain anchored… waiting for a time to unload? trucking? LOL..
We are currently remodeling our kitchen. Everything ordered in July.
Windows from Pella, four months. Wolf range? possibly…possibly February 22. Thermidor Columns and dishwashers? January 22. Furnishings? Forget about it.
Just wait till Christmas if you want to see a real shortage of goods from the orient.
So be mad at Ford for a delayed order. Be thankful you get a truck at all.
Take your anger, and turn it into patience. Because there’s no one to blame.
Once it arrives by container ship, how long will that ship remain anchored… waiting for a time to unload? trucking? LOL..
We are currently remodeling our kitchen. Everything ordered in July.
Windows from Pella, four months. Wolf range? possibly…possibly February 22. Thermidor Columns and dishwashers? January 22. Furnishings? Forget about it.
Just wait till Christmas if you want to see a real shortage of goods from the orient.
So be mad at Ford for a delayed order. Be thankful you get a truck at all.
Take your anger, and turn it into patience. Because there’s no one to blame.
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 2,822
Likes: 1,183
From: Southeast MO
A growing percentage of American furniture is made in Vietnam. Vietnam is shut down with Covid. Take one link out of the chain, and it all falls apart. Say what you want about Covid, but once you have it, you’ll respect it …if you survive it.
Once it arrives by container ship, how long will that ship remain anchored… waiting for a time to unload? trucking? LOL..
We are currently remodeling our kitchen. Everything ordered in July.
Windows from Pella, four months. Wolf range? possibly…possibly February 22. Thermidor Columns and dishwashers? January 22. Furnishings? Forget about it.
Just wait till Christmas if you want to see a real shortage of goods from the orient.
So be mad at Ford for a delayed order. Be thankful you get a truck at all.
Take your anger, and turn it into patience. Because there’s no one to blame.
Once it arrives by container ship, how long will that ship remain anchored… waiting for a time to unload? trucking? LOL..
We are currently remodeling our kitchen. Everything ordered in July.
Windows from Pella, four months. Wolf range? possibly…possibly February 22. Thermidor Columns and dishwashers? January 22. Furnishings? Forget about it.
Just wait till Christmas if you want to see a real shortage of goods from the orient.
So be mad at Ford for a delayed order. Be thankful you get a truck at all.
Take your anger, and turn it into patience. Because there’s no one to blame.
New User
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 17
Likes: 4
After calling the local dealer and discussing the rear axle weld issue, my wife and I made the call to sell the 2021 F350 and move on with our lives.
The dealer told us it could be 'months' waiting for the parts to complete the weld repair on the rear axle, and probably spring of next year if it needed a replacement rear end.
I really loved the truck, but couldn't stand the thought of parking the thing for six months waiting on a recall repair. We didn't feel comfortable towing with it anymore either. Nothing like a crushed axle 1000 miles away from home to complicate things.
Sold it to another dealer here for $2k under what I paid for it back in April.
I never expected Ford to pull a chicken ***** move like slapping welds on a critical part, but this is what the world has come to. I had a 2018 Ram that they wanted to weld the steering center adjustment nuts together, same thought process I guess... Who needs a centered steering wheel? Who needs a rear axle rated to support the load you advertise it can support?
Put a deposit down on a 2022 GMC 3500, hope to have better luck with it.
End of rant.
The dealer told us it could be 'months' waiting for the parts to complete the weld repair on the rear axle, and probably spring of next year if it needed a replacement rear end.
I really loved the truck, but couldn't stand the thought of parking the thing for six months waiting on a recall repair. We didn't feel comfortable towing with it anymore either. Nothing like a crushed axle 1000 miles away from home to complicate things.
Sold it to another dealer here for $2k under what I paid for it back in April.
I never expected Ford to pull a chicken ***** move like slapping welds on a critical part, but this is what the world has come to. I had a 2018 Ram that they wanted to weld the steering center adjustment nuts together, same thought process I guess... Who needs a centered steering wheel? Who needs a rear axle rated to support the load you advertise it can support?
Put a deposit down on a 2022 GMC 3500, hope to have better luck with it.
End of rant.
Tuned
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 345
Likes: 92
Amazing how we fan folks. Be neighborly and wish each well. Not like he was trolling and fire of hatred to a brand. Yes, they all have their issues for if not, only one would exist and then that manufacturer could charge all they wanted and then hardly any of us here could afford!
Hotshot
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,137
Likes: 7,950
From: Texas
There was one major reason that I was pretty much a Ford fan for a lot of years. I spent just about all my life in western ND, eastern MT, and NE Wyoming. It seemed that the Ford dealers there were just about always local folks, neighbors, family owned businesses that I personally knew, where the other brands seemed to be the ones that were large corporate type dealers that no one knew the owners. At least until 10 ir 15 years ago.
After retiring and moving here to AZ, everything here is corporate, so no brand loyalty what so ever.
These trucks are no more than a machine…….they WILL break down, regardless of how many $$$$$$$$ one spends on them or what the badge on the grill looks like. And the bigest difference is how good or bad any one dealer treats you after the sale when the problems arise.
After retiring and moving here to AZ, everything here is corporate, so no brand loyalty what so ever.
These trucks are no more than a machine…….they WILL break down, regardless of how many $$$$$$$$ one spends on them or what the badge on the grill looks like. And the bigest difference is how good or bad any one dealer treats you after the sale when the problems arise.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 174
Likes: 85
This is an interesting comment. So many manufactured products have those years of great/poor quality. Gibson/Fender guitars, etc. I was thinking this same thing as my new 2022 ordered truck is in (I go check it out on Tuesday). But I admit I’m a little more cautious than normal given my ‘19 has been dead solid perfect. Zero issues outside of me seeing one of the two factory batteries starting to leak (very little) at 31k miles so I swapped both to AGM. But engine, transmission, electronics, steering, etc have been great. For the even swap to a new one, it was worth ordering to see and I’ll inspect it like an engineer when I go check it out.
To the OP, best of luck moving to a new truck. I get it. Sometimes just easier to move on to one you’re more confident in. I sold a truck I didn’t trust right after college.
To the OP, best of luck moving to a new truck. I get it. Sometimes just easier to move on to one you’re more confident in. I sold a truck I didn’t trust right after college.
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 2,073
Likes: 1,027
From: Michigan
So between the two axles, Ford saved 20 lbs? And $5 added to the axle cost? Now how much will it cost them?
Laughing Gas
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 997
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From: Central New York
For the even swap to a new one, it was worth ordering to see and I’ll inspect it like an engineer when I go check it out.
I agree with all said and will also be checking the 22 out with a fine tooth comb. My 17 has been perfect and every new 22 delivery post with a positive comment is reassuring. This will be my 3rd ordered Super Duty and so far they have been great. Having a dealer I trust is also making my new truck order much more mentally tolerable. Whoever gets my 17 is a very fortunate buyer, even at the cost of used trucks.
I agree with all said and will also be checking the 22 out with a fine tooth comb. My 17 has been perfect and every new 22 delivery post with a positive comment is reassuring. This will be my 3rd ordered Super Duty and so far they have been great. Having a dealer I trust is also making my new truck order much more mentally tolerable. Whoever gets my 17 is a very fortunate buyer, even at the cost of used trucks.
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Joined: Mar 2017
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From: Florida
I’m in the same boat as the OP. I’ve been trying to find a dealership to complete the repair on my 2020 Dana axle without any success. I opened a case with Ford and their customer service reps have also struck out. They called multiple dealers.
I crawled under my truck and verified it passed the feeler gauge test so at this time all it needs is the welding.
Customer service said to call them back Monday morning and they would continue to call dealers looking for one to do the weld repair.
The primary mission of my truck is to pull a 14,000 lb 5th wheel RV. It’s frustrating to say the least.
I crawled under my truck and verified it passed the feeler gauge test so at this time all it needs is the welding.
Customer service said to call them back Monday morning and they would continue to call dealers looking for one to do the weld repair.
The primary mission of my truck is to pull a 14,000 lb 5th wheel RV. It’s frustrating to say the least.
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,220
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From: CA
I've owned new Ford, Toyota, Chevrolet and GMC's over the years. All have been flawless except the last GMC (2019) and this Ford. The GMC had an issue with the front axle where it would make a metallic sound similar to dragging a tow chain. In the nearly three years I owned it, GM never could fix that AAM axle and continued to crank out trucks with the same axle configuration. Customer service will tell you it doesn't affect the vehicle's operation and continue to kick the can. At least GM's customer service will pick up the phone and blow smoke..Ford's customer service is abysmal, incompetent and absolutely useless.
More Turbo
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 710
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From: Beautiful South
Let's not forget how GM stuck everyone who had a Northstar engine with a worthless car for the years of 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99. Buy a $45-70k Cadillac and you had a worthless boat anchor. It wasn't IF the engine heads would lift off the block, it was a guarantee. The head studs weren't properly engineered and they would pull out of the aluminum threads. What a catastrophe. And GM didn't do anything for the owners. Or people like me who bought them second hand and got stuck with a bad engine at 45k miles. What a pile of crap.
But Ford has a bad spot on some of their axles! Ready the guillotine!
But Ford has a bad spot on some of their axles! Ready the guillotine!
FTE Community Team
Joined: Mar 2017
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From: Florida
Until the fix is applied to my truck I’m being very gentle on the throttle when towing to minimize chance of excessive torque causing twist/crush damage to the axle.
I was sort of hoping that when I got underneath that I would find mine failed the feeler gauge check. That way I would just push for axle replacement. But failing feeler gauge check would instantly declare the truck as unsafe to drive. Who knows how long before a replacement axle would be available.
it’s very frustrating. I will be on the phone again Monday morning and insist Ford finds a dealer or weld shop to do the fix.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Mar 2018
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I considered using a outside welder but the risk of damaging the axle by improperly welding eliminated that solution choice.,. If axle were damaged by an improper weld it could get very costly to replace. That’s why I’m pushing Ford Customer Service to find a approved vender solution. If damage occurs it would be on their dime to resolve.
Until the fix is applied to my truck I’m being very gentle on the throttle when towing to minimize chance of excessive torque causing twist/crush damage to the axle.
I was sort of hoping that when I got underneath that I would find mine failed the feeler gauge check. That way I would just push for axle replacement. But failing feeler gauge check would instantly declare the truck as unsafe to drive. Who knows how long before a replacement axle would be available.
it’s very frustrating. I will be on the phone again Monday morning and insist Ford finds a dealer or weld shop to do the fix.
Until the fix is applied to my truck I’m being very gentle on the throttle when towing to minimize chance of excessive torque causing twist/crush damage to the axle.
I was sort of hoping that when I got underneath that I would find mine failed the feeler gauge check. That way I would just push for axle replacement. But failing feeler gauge check would instantly declare the truck as unsafe to drive. Who knows how long before a replacement axle would be available.
it’s very frustrating. I will be on the phone again Monday morning and insist Ford finds a dealer or weld shop to do the fix.