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I think anymore, unless you need to upgrade you are best to keep what you have.
Yup. Since 2018 I have been waiting for the right time to buy a truck. I did not have one and I needed one to continue pulling our camper, but I wanted one that could pull it anywhere, and with ease. After renting a dodge and a Ford 3/4 ton I knew that this was the class I wanted, and I liked the Ford interior, as well as the way it drove, way better than the dodge. Everything was going great, until the time came that I could go ahead and order... it was mid 2021! Used trucks were more expensive than they were when new years ago, and used trucks had an undetermined delivery date.
All I can say is that now, 122 days after placing my order, I brought my truck home. The only issues I have seen so far is a couple of spots with paint defects, and 1 scratch. They took photos of the paint defects but I didn't notice the scratch to point it out... I'll see how that goes. But to be honest, as long as it doesn't affect the way it performs, I will be happy with it. My Dana M275 axle has a sticker date of 12-Sep-2021 02:47, so I hope that this is well past the axles with the recalls. This gives me hope that maybe this aspect will be ok... As far as anything else, I am out trying to do my due diligence and keep it properly maintained and praying for the best.
I agree though, if you have something now that is ok, it may be best to hang onto it and see what happens down the road. I guess it's a gamble, but at least you would still have what you know you have.
To the OP, I hate to hear this happened and hope your next buying experience goes better!
After calling the local dealer and discussing the rear axle weld issue, my wife and I made the call to sell the 2021 F350 and move on with our lives.
The dealer told us it could be 'months' waiting for the parts to complete the weld repair on the rear axle, and probably spring of next year if it needed a replacement rear end.
I really loved the truck, but couldn't stand the thought of parking the thing for six months waiting on a recall repair. We didn't feel comfortable towing with it anymore either. Nothing like a crushed axle 1000 miles away from home to complicate things.
Sold it to another dealer here for $2k under what I paid for it back in April.
I never expected Ford to pull a chicken ***** move like slapping welds on a critical part, but this is what the world has come to. I had a 2018 Ram that they wanted to weld the steering center adjustment nuts together, same thought process I guess... Who needs a centered steering wheel? Who needs a rear axle rated to support the load you advertise it can support?
Put a deposit down on a 2022 GMC 3500, hope to have better luck with it.
End of rant.
Good luck with the GM. Did you check to make sure it doesn't have the same rear axle?
I can't understand why Ford wouldn't send customers to professional welding shops to have the repairs done. They could pay for the welding and give the customer a free oil change and most would be OK. When they post massive corporate profits it doesn't make sense why they are behaving as if the Dana screwup gives them deniability. Really disappointing.
Reading these posts, I wonder if brand loyalty is going away. Men used to define themselves in part by the brand of truck they always bought. I’m losing brand loyalty myself over the years,but mostly because the prices are insane. For what we pay for vehicles, the damn things better work “as expected” every time for years or else I’m jumping ship to a competitor. This expectation may be unrealistic (it’s still just a machine), but so are the prices.
To me, brand loyalty is just foolish, maybe the single worst reason to buy something this expensive. Ford pissed me off with my order, it still isn't built. Had another manufacturer made a the truck configuration I want, I would be driving it instead. I have owned all three brands, many of each. Ford's are my favorite but I have had great trucks from Chevy and Dodge too. I think taking a good look at your needs and wants then researching your choices is how the smart money is spent. None of them provide a sterling level of customer service anymore anyway. None of them have a distinct edge in quality or performance. Buying a brand because you are loyal to it? Good Luck with that.
My 17 F350 has been close to perfect. Ordered a 22 F450 while in for an oil and fuel filter service in April. Had to drop adaptive steering in August to get scheduled for November 1. Hope it will be as good as the 17. Way more variables now in the process. You have to believe you will get a good truck but anything is possible. A good dealer gives me some piece of mind.
Thanks all for the responses! I agree the new Chevy HD has a face only a mother could love. The high country trim ain't bad... My wife actually saw a GMC 3500 on the lot and said "that looks good" so off we go! I had a 2020 Silverado 3500 SRW. Not a bad truck, just wanted the tax write off on the new business and was really looking for the puck fifth wheel system (the Chevy didn't have it)
I had a 2018 Ram, the Cummins was a great engine, the rest of the truck sucked. Ram actually did a similar B.S. recall repair on that truck and welded the steering drag link adjustment nuts together. So the steering wheel couldn't be centered anymore. Guys I knew where buying aftermarket drag links and paying to have them swapped and getting FCA to pick up the tab.
I debated sourcing a professional axle repair on the F350 - just couldn't justify the hassle.
The rose colored glasses came off my face years ago - I totally get all three of the American manufacturers have their share of problems. It's a crap shoot. These trucks cost more than my parents first home, but that's life. My wife says I am a constant optimist- I always think the next thing will work great and be problem free...
LOL. Let me translate: OP gets bored of things very quickly and needed an excuse to jump to something different. Let's call it what it is, seriously. This is OPs 4th truck in 4 years. Doth protests too much, methinks.
Not saying there is anything wrong with a new car every year, but let's not wave our arms in disgust and stomp out of the room (figuratively), when an acorn dropping on the hood from the a tree in your yard would have elicited a sale of your truck. I suspect, you'll find something wrong with the GM in about 12-18 months and rinse/repeat.
LOL. Let me translate: OP gets bored of things very quickly and needed an excuse to jump to something different. Let's call it what it is, seriously. This is OPs 4th truck in 4 years. Doth protests too much, methinks.
Not saying there is anything wrong with a new car every year, but let's not wave our arms in disgust and stomp out of the room (figuratively), when an acorn dropping on the hood from the a tree in your yard would have elicited a sale of your truck. I suspect, you'll find something wrong with the GM in about 12-18 months and rinse/repeat.
If the OP’s reason for leaving Ford was because he didn’t like the choice in ambient lighting colors I would agree with your “excuse to jump to something different” statement.
I agree with him that Ford really failed on taking care of him and his reasons on going to GM.
Some of you guys really make me SMH...and wonder where common sense has gone…
Ford failed?
Any business failing to keep up with demand while working with the current economic and heath challenges? LOL.
I’m sure if replacement parts were available from Dana, it would be installed in a few days.
A lack of qualified welding? No surprise.
Order isn’t arriving? See above, except add in every Ford outsource supplier.
Looking for furniture? Lazy-Boy furniture is currently 12-18 months out on order delivery.
6 months for Wolf appliances.
8 months out for Peterbilt orders.
My business had 1/3 of the staff out with Covid for two weeks straight. Still can’t depend on any order showing up complete.
Blame me for having a short staff, not delivering, closing early and upsetting customers?
Good luck with the GM. Did you check to make sure it doesn't have the same rear axle?
I can't understand why Ford wouldn't send customers to professional welding shops to have the repairs done. They could pay for the welding and give the customer a free oil change and most would be OK. When they post massive corporate profits it doesn't make sense why they are behaving as if the Dana screwup gives them deniability. Really disappointing.
Bingo! This is the perfect opportunity for the local Ford dealer to do the right thing for a customer. The dealer could have sent it out to the local axle shop, and get it fixed. The dealer could seek reimbursement (or not) at a later date. I'm not surprised the (Big Ford) manufacture would delay/deny, but if the local dealer did the right thing they would have had a customer for life. The dealer could have added some caveats, like bring it back for some future services. This was absolutely a dealer missed opportunity.
Bingo! This is the perfect opportunity for the local Ford dealer to do the right thing for a customer. The dealer could have sent it out to the local axle shop, and get it fixed. The dealer could seek reimbursement (or not) at a later date. I'm not surprised the (Big Ford) manufacture would delay/deny, but if the local dealer did the right thing they would have had a customer for life. The dealer could have added some caveats, like bring it back for some future services. This was absolutely a dealer missed opportunity.
Common sense again…
Ford can not do that because they open themselves up to complete liability of failure by outsourcing the job to someone out of their corporate control.
Hypothetically…Billy Joe may be a great welder, but he didn’t do an axle job correctly at Billy Joe’s welding…, and the failure cost a life..
Common sense again…
Ford can not do that because they open themselves up to complete liability of failure by outsourcing the job to someone out of their corporate control.
Not true. They could probably have 1-2 corporate people spend a couple days on this and line it out with qualified insured vendors and knock it out. Think Dana doesn’t have any qualified axle shops around the country?
Not true. They could probably have 1-2 corporate people spend a couple days on this and line it out with qualified insured vendors and knock it out. Think Dana doesn’t have any qualified axle shops around the country.
True. Ask a lawyer.
Lawyers look to place blame.
I’m sure Dana does have hundreds of qualified welders everywhere.. Does Dana want to get involved? Hell no..
They built to Ford specs, and they want to keep their hands clean.
Will Ford let someone muddy things up further by hiring unknowns?
Elementary call there.. no.
With a major component like a rear axle, there is no chance Ford takes on liability by outsourcing this.
Actually, I’m shocked they settled on welding and not sucking up total replacement.
Just wait for the first road failure and fatality. Of course, Dana will still share some liability here, courtesy of Ford legal...