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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 06:01 PM
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Ford should be thankful Toyota didn’t enter into the 3/4 ton up market. They keep selling 120k or so of tundras every year consistently with minimal discounts despite it being out classed on specs over ten years ago. those of us who have deal with Rams and Fords might have switched a long time ago.
Tundra is absolute shat. I had the unfortunate experience of owning one for 5 of the longest, most boring years of my life. I mean its cool if you want a little car that doesnt break down. But if you actually need to do work, or want to drive something not in the stone ages, forget it. A family member brought home a King Ranch, my tundra was gone weeks later.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 07:06 PM
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Well, that issue sounds frustrating and 100% fords fault for not addressing it better. I dont blame OP for bailing on ford but the other 2 are crap.

with all the 2020 and 2021 debacles we dont have a good option for 3/4 and up trucks.

really makes me second guess my 2022 order. Why get rid of a high mileage 2019 to go with who knows what issues.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 07:39 PM
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Best of luck with your new truck. I hope it works out great for you.

It's discussions like this one that reinforce my confidence in choosing to go with a 2017 instead of a '21 or '22.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DarrellM5
Best of luck with your new truck. I hope it works out great for you.

It's discussions like this one that reinforce my confidence in choosing to go with a 2017 instead of a '21 or '22.
I think 17-19 will go down as one of the best gens. I’m going to resist the market and keep mine when my 2022 comes in….probably will need it.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 08:56 PM
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For what we're paying for these trucks, they sure have a lot of problems. Too many import components with no supervision during manufacture of components.


And UAW...... those *******s.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 10:06 PM
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Lol you bought a truck that looks like the interns designed it and the interior is from 2016 I hope you enjoy it! And this is coming from a die hard GM guy, i waited till 2020 to make my choice between Ford and Chevy and they released that hideous truck I bought a Ford! Dodge don’t even get me started
 
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 11:09 PM
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Thanks all for the responses! I agree the new Chevy HD has a face only a mother could love. The high country trim ain't bad... My wife actually saw a GMC 3500 on the lot and said "that looks good" so off we go! I had a 2020 Silverado 3500 SRW. Not a bad truck, just wanted the tax write off on the new business and was really looking for the puck fifth wheel system (the Chevy didn't have it)

I had a 2018 Ram, the Cummins was a great engine, the rest of the truck sucked. Ram actually did a similar B.S. recall repair on that truck and welded the steering drag link adjustment nuts together. So the steering wheel couldn't be centered anymore. Guys I knew where buying aftermarket drag links and paying to have them swapped and getting FCA to pick up the tab.

I debated sourcing a professional axle repair on the F350 - just couldn't justify the hassle.

The rose colored glasses came off my face years ago - I totally get all three of the American manufacturers have their share of problems. It's a crap shoot. These trucks cost more than my parents first home, but that's life. My wife says I am a constant optimist- I always think the next thing will work great and be problem free...
 
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jharp
Thanks all for the responses! I agree the new Chevy HD has a face only a mother could love. The high country trim ain't bad... My wife actually saw a GMC 3500 on the lot and said "that looks good" so off we go! I had a 2020 Silverado 3500 SRW. Not a bad truck, just wanted the tax write off on the new business and was really looking for the puck fifth wheel system (the Chevy didn't have it)

I had a 2018 Ram, the Cummins was a great engine, the rest of the truck sucked. Ram actually did a similar B.S. recall repair on that truck and welded the steering drag link adjustment nuts together. So the steering wheel couldn't be centered anymore. Guys I knew where buying aftermarket drag links and paying to have them swapped and getting FCA to pick up the tab.

I debated sourcing a professional axle repair on the F350 - just couldn't justify the hassle.

The rose colored glasses came off my face years ago - I totally get all three of the American manufacturers have their share of problems. It's a crap shoot. These trucks cost more than my parents first home, but that's life. My wife says I am a constant optimist- I always think the next thing will work great and be problem free...

none of them will be problem free!!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2021 | 04:56 AM
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Fortunately for me, my truck isn’t part of the axle recall.
IMO. Just no way I could muster up the will to wax something that disfigured.

I’ve always owned both a Ford and GM. I’ll be trading off the GM for a Ram.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2021 | 05:25 AM
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Once again the result of living in a Covid world! I hate your experience has been this way and that is whether it is with Ford, Chevy or Dodge. We have to put Covid in the rear view or this country is going to totally collapse. Stop funding sitting at home and make people re-enter the work force! There, that is as political as I will get.

Good luck and hate to see you go.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2021 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jharp
My wife says I am a constant optimist- I always think the next thing will work great and be problem free...
You have to be, otherwise you would go insane and be a drag on others. Hey, I am not going to be one of those fanboys here. I wish you luck with whatever truck brand you get. I looked at others prior to my F-250 but the Ford seemed to be a better truck after researching. But when I bought this whole mess hadn’t hit quite yet. Maybe it was timing and luck.

Hopefully Ford gets their stuff fixed……don’t even go to the Bronco site to see what is happening with those right now! Totally uncalled for by Ford.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2021 | 06:02 AM
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GMC has the better front end to it, I could own one if I needed too.

It should be find. Different but fine.

My sister has one, not new but I think 2018, tows fine, but not something I would overload or have at its limits.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2021 | 06:07 AM
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Could have been worse, you could own a Chevy bolt.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2021 | 06:15 AM
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Reading these posts, I wonder if brand loyalty is going away. Men used to define themselves in part by the brand of truck they always bought. I’m losing brand loyalty myself over the years,but mostly because the prices are insane. For what we pay for vehicles, the damn things better work “as expected” every time for years or else I’m jumping ship to a competitor. This expectation may be unrealistic (it’s still just a machine), but so are the prices.
 
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