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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 06:33 PM
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I’m 99% sure it’s a roller. Regardless the block should be provisioned for a roller cam, which is the direction I plan to go. It came out of a 95 f150. I don’t think there is an easy way to tell until I get the intake manifold off
There is.. just pull a valve cover off, remove a rocker and pull the pushrod out. If it measures 7.5" it's a roller(8.2" = flat tappet), and a flashlight down the lifter hole will show the dogbone around the lifter in a roller motor.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
There is.. just pull a valve cover off, remove a rocker and pull the pushrod out. If it measures 7.5" it's a roller(8.2" = flat tappet), and a flashlight down the lifter hole will show the dogbone around the lifter in a roller motor.
You mean pushrod hole...
 
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 07:14 PM
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Yes,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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So I confirmed today it IS a roller cam 351. So I think until I can afford after market heads and intake, I’m going to put 1.7 roller rocker arms in it and run it. I’m going to go through and replace all the seals and gaskets first though. Here are my biggest questions…. With my 5.0 wiring plug into the 351 distributor? And I have what looks like a coolant temp sensor about 1/3 the way back on the drivers side. I know that doesn’t exist on the 302. Do I just plug it and ignore it?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinky151
So I confirmed today it IS a roller cam 351. So I think until I can afford after market heads and intake, I’m going to put 1.7 roller rocker arms in it and run it. I’m going to go through and replace all the seals and gaskets first though. Here are my biggest questions…. With my 5.0 wiring plug into the 351 distributor? And I have what looks like a coolant temp sensor about 1/3 the way back on the drivers side. I know that doesn’t exist on the 302. Do I just plug it and ignore it?
Are the engines carb or fuel injected?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2022 | 05:34 PM
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As I mentioned earlier, they are both 95 fuel injected MAF roller motors
 
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Originally Posted by Stinky151
As I mentioned earlier, they are both 95 fuel injected MAF roller motors
They are but didn't know if you were converting and doing away with any potential computer issues...
 
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Originally Posted by Stinky151
So I confirmed today it IS a roller cam 351. So I think until I can afford after market heads and intake, I’m going to put 1.7 roller rocker arms in it and run it. I’m going to go through and replace all the seals and gaskets first though. Here are my biggest questions…. With my 5.0 wiring plug into the 351 distributor? And I have what looks like a coolant temp sensor about 1/3 the way back on the drivers side. I know that doesn’t exist on the 302. Do I just plug it and ignore it?
That sounds like an early 5.8 which should not be a roller.. but it could also just be the intake that is older. Does the distributor have a short wiring pigtale hanging off it just like your 5.0 or is there an ignition module on the side of it?
The sensor on the lower intake is the early IAT, you can just ignore it for your purposes.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
That sounds like an early 5.8 which should not be a roller.. but it could also just be the intake that is older. Does the distributor have a short wiring pigtale hanging off it just like your 5.0 or is there an ignition module on the side of it?
The sensor on the lower intake is the early IAT, you can just ignore it for your purposes.
Short pigtail would be for carb...module plug would be for fuel injection...
 
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Originally Posted by bwguardian
Short pigtail would be for carb...module plug would be for fuel injection...
No, carbs have nothing to do with anything in this tread.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
No, carbs have nothing to do with anything in this tread.
I understand that, but there's a difference in distributors for each...and the pigtail type is typically for a carb, they do not interchange.
 
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It has the short pigtail just like the 5.0. After looking at it, it should mate up just fine. I’m still pulling it apart and cleaning everything up before I put it in. I did fine some oddness though….. it looks like someone coated the intake runners on the heads with POR15 or something similar. I’m not really sure what to think of it. I’m putting new head gaskets and valve seals on, so I’m going to pull it apart, just debating if I should polish this crap off or not.

It’s a full roller motor, no doubt there. Here is the intake.





here is a bad pic of the runners



 
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Originally Posted by bwguardian
I understand that, but there's a difference in distributors for each...and the pigtail type is typically for a carb, they do not interchange.
They are both fuel injected motors. I know what a carb distributor looks like.
 
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That’s the knock sensor which the 351 doesn’t have. Just leave it unplugged. I have mine zip tied out if the way.
 
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That’s the knock sensor which the 351 doesn’t have. Just leave it unplugged. I have mine zip tied out if the way.

the plug on the intake is on the 351 intake.
 
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