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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 08:06 AM
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Medium Flat rate box is fine. Wrap each injector in a healthy amount of newspaper or bubble wrap. Mostly, you don’t want the solenoids to get chipped or the injector bodies to get banged up.

Back at the end of last year, priority mail could take weeks - but the last few things I’ve shipped and received only took the normal 2-3 days.

Look forward to the results!

What size injector are you going with?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 08:26 AM
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What size injector are you going with?
160/0 from Rosewood
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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I'd go Big Brown or USPS....dang sure not Fed-Ex.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan V
I'd go Big Brown or USPS....dang sure not Fed-Ex.
I avoid Fed-Ex at all costs. Have had so many bad experiences with them.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 09:08 AM
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Good work Wes. You and I both know how hard it is to juggle kiddos, work, truck stuff, more work, wife, lawn, dog, fun time, gun time, then back to more truck stuff. Jim will do you right. Did you call him before sending them? I forget, but any tuning needed with the 160/0?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 07:21 PM
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Found a video of Wesley "upgrading" his zero turn mower instead of working on his injectors.

 
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 07:43 PM
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You joke, but in the past I had considered slapping a "small" 11hp riding mower motor on a blown up push mower and towing it offset of the old troybuilt garden tractor...
 
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 07:45 PM
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Jim will do you right. Did you call him before sending them? I forget, but any tuning needed with the 160/0?
Emailed a couple times before hand. Monday he said they are about 3 weeks behind at the moment, but to send em on over

Yes 160 are single shot vs the stock split shots so have to have different tunes to run correctly
 
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 11:19 PM
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So yesterday while I had a chance I worked on the mission crepe and PM items. One thing that has bugged me since the move was my pegboards at the new house were a cluster fluck. It was a hang crap wherever just to get it out of moving boxes and off the floor kind of deal.

Well last night I was tired of scanning all the pegboards for every single needed tool scattered around the entirety of 5 garage wall pegboards, various tool boxes, drawers, shelves and the truck. So i started at one spot in the garage and gathered everything automotive and continued along until I had gone thru everything, and I mean everything. I found crap I knew I had & some that was forgotten, but hadn't seen in years. I even found some of the wrenches I bought when I was 15 for my F100 in some of my old Mexico house building boxes I hadn't been into in almost 19 years. I gathered everything up and started looking at the now empty pegboard in front of the truck and got to work. Granted I rearranged a little here and there as I went and put certain copies of tools back into my go to mobile toolbox, but I ended up with something that made me breathe a sigh of relief. No more household repair, plumbing, electrical tools and supplies, painting tools, yardwork tools, reloading equipment, or woodworking stuff to scan thru looking for automotive specific tools anymore.


Starting with a nearly blank slate

Almost all done. Still some Corvette odds and ends to add that are in the car and designated boxes, but this rough draft made the work I did next much easier than it had been before

So next up I removed the passenger side battery and windshield washer tank. The tank wouldn't hold fluid for more than a week, and the pump didn't produce any spray for about a year now. During the ice storm the nasty road grime spray on the windshield was downright annoying, and if it were during a cross country tow it would have become a big safety issue vs around town to and from work during the pandemic it was no big deal to just grab my squeegee every couple months to remove a big splattered bug or two. So I had ordered a whole new tank/pump/poly hose assembly from RockAuto for a pretty low price. Who knows, the way my luck has been lately the original rubber hose may have been split somewhere unseen & been the only problem allowing the tank to leak down and pump to not build pressure to the nozzles. I'll probably test the old tank and pump out in a few days when my curiosity gets the best of me. Who knows, if they are good I'll probably mount them to the zero turn and reuse it as a spot sprayer for weeds
Or maybe as a cheap water meth kit on it...

While this was going on I was also literally watching paint dry. When I removed the passenger battery tray to gain access to the washer tank I saw some spots of that darn orangish brown crap known as rust. So I hit it with a wire brush till those spots were all good n shiny then sprayed it with rust converter for good measure. Once that was fully cured I hit it with Rust-oleum primer. As my tasks were going on I'd check it every now and then and once it didn't look wet I gave it an hour before I picked it up and sprayed the other side. Next time I'm able to do truck work I'll paint it black, and eventually add the rust preventative clear coat. And hopefully remember to take some pictures for SSJ

So next up I started with something that had been bugging me for the past 2 years, I had just lost 90% of my motivation to do anything about it, plus it still all worked so what was the hurry?

Years ago when I built my headlight relay harness I simply built it using 14 gauge wiring, 2 relays, wires to the battery, and ran the trigger wires off the original tiny 18 gauge(?) headlight wires, and had the relays mounted to some existing fender well bolts. It always bugged me that the relays weren't enclosed from the underhood elements and the wireloom went all over as more aftermarket stuff was added nearby. Plus I was running out of room for all those battery rings on the clamps. So last night I finally started to add the headlight harness and other accessories to the underhood fuse and relay box I added right before life fell apart.

After about an hour I had everything shrink wrapped, wire loomed, and added to the box with much less chaotic looking wire loom runs going on. Now I've only got 1 wire from the battery going to the fuse/relay box instead of 4 going various directions

Next up I grabbed the new intercooler boots and slid them on the intercooler. Then I cleaned up the Tbolt clamps that had never been removed from the original boots and started to put them on the new RiffRaff boots. But as I would soon discover the new boots were way better, and thicker. I ended up having to remove the nylock nut and spring from those clamps just to get them to slide on all the way. Then reassembled the clamps and tightened them down by hand for now. Once everything is back together I'll snug them up and check for boost leaks.

And that was all I can remember doing in the garage last night. Stay tuned for our next episode
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 07:24 AM
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“Then reassembled the clamps and tightened them down by hand for now. Once everything is back together I'll snug them up and check for boost leaks.”

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Red = Don’t forget this very important step so you can catch the big pop in the garage.


Good job on the organization. And they’re right behind you in arms reach too!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 09:18 AM
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Progress is still progress, even if the primary mission is not being pursued. I call these mission creep tasks "targets of opportunity".

Maybe it is something mechanical, maybe mental, but either way you are in a better state of mind and more focused for the next steps that need to be taken.

Well done Wesley, we look forward to more updates.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 11:10 PM
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Days and nights are blending together while I work nightshift, gonna try and remember what all I did in the spare minutes I had.

Finished adding paint layers to the battery box. I gotta grab pics some day

​​​​​​Finally found the right box to ship the injectors in from the pile of boxes my wife keeps on hand in the attic. It was actually the box the hardware and mounts for my Procomp traction bars came in. But even that pretty thick cardboard box made me leary of trusting it to securely hold my 28# of valuble injectors in place during the trip. So I added some peace of mind and 2# to the total weight
Some 3/8” or maybe it was 1/2” scrap plywood made a pretty little shipping container after 10 minutes on the bandsaw

Which fit like a glove inside the cardboard box to take the brunt of any bangs and knocks that would occur during shipping

Inside the plywood coffin I lined it with paper towels, then some black 1/2 egg crate foam from some unknown packages my wife bought b4 Christmas. After that I had some of the large 1" bubble wrap that was in the perfect sized bag shape

Had some 3'x8' sheets of the smaller bubble wrap from some furniture she bought that I cut into 1ft wide 3ft lengths. Then wrapped all the injectors in. This one in photo was just a small scrap piece, I wrapped around it to see how the coverage was, didn't like it so redid it with the pieces I cut, but I didn't take any pictures of that and didn't review photos I took till after it was all ready to ship

Inside the 1st big bubble wrap bag I laid 4 wrapped injectors going 1 direction, then laid the 2nd big bubble wrap bag inside the 1st bag and laid the next 4 injectors between the first set of 4 with the narrow nozzles facing one another and between the solenoids. Then I closed up the first bag, and put a copy of the Rosewood order form inside the 2nd bag and closed it up


Then I laid the egg crate foam on top of the bag in similar form as the bottom and sides were done


And for extra measure another order form copy on top of the foam


Then I screwed the lid down with twelve 1.5" deck screws, vs the sides and bottom of the box when I built it I used wood glue, and 3 100 count sticks of brad nails to hold it together differently than the top that they can easily remove


And just in case the cardboard box disentigrates during shipping I slapped the shipping address to the plywood in 5 spots


And here my box sits all tucked away in the cardboard ready for battle with the hoards of other packages and underpaid, uncaring employees on it's journey. And heck just for good measure, another order form



And here is the outer shell with 5 address labels and many bands of reinforced tape that wrap completely around the box 2 wraps each. Not including the shipping labels that UPS uses for their scanners

They ought to get there safe and sound
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If not it's insured for the replacement cost of brand new Alliant's, and maybe a large chunk of a T4

When I dropped off the box the guy behind the counter, said "Finally, someone that packaged something good enough to make it out the first set of doors and into the 1st truck"


We then had a short chat about how nearly all the packages they get going out now days are Amazon returns and most people just fold & don't even tape the lids shut, or even have the shipping addresses on them. He said a lot of people just expect them to seal up the boxes for them or write addresses on shipments. He also mentioned how many people he has had to refuse to add $1k-5k shipping insurance on packages will get mad at him when he explains they require sealed packages with adequate cardboard thickness for the items being shipped. We speculated it was just a way for scammers to intentionally loose items in the mail and claim the insurance money.

Anyways that's about the only updates I can think of during these past hectic days. Hopefully I can tackle some more work on the truck tonight when the family is asleep
 

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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:01 AM
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Wesley, were you able to use Simple Rate shipping via UPS? The box looks like it might be a bit too large though based on the pictures.

I mailed the small/minor part you needed out yesterday, should be there early part of next week via 2 day shipping USPS.

Well done on the box, I will probably take a page out of your book when it comes time for me to replace my injectors. I also plan to go 160/0 when the time comes.

What are your projects that you have lined up while waiting for the injectors to come back? Working on the truck, around the house or on the 5th wheel?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:05 AM
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That is an amazing amount of effort. Overkill is often underrated!!!!

Ive shipped dozens of sets of injectors with far less effort and never had a problem. I’m curious if Jim will send them back in your box or do what he normally does.

The Bitterroot guys make fun of me for putting a few business cards in different places ‘just in case’ the label gets messed up!!
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 10:53 AM
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That’s $150 worth of plywood in today’s market.

I’m happy to see there are other people out there who go completely overkill **** on packaging, shipping forms, and tape.
 
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