1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Fake Motorcraft glow plugs?? Here are clues...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-09-2021, 03:36 PM
SkySkiJason's Avatar
SkySkiJason
SkySkiJason is offline
Hotshot
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N.GA Mountains
Posts: 12,656
Received 1,898 Likes on 1,145 Posts
Fake Motorcraft glow plugs?? Here are clues...

Short story - customer supplied ‘Motorcraft glow plugs’ for me to install. 30k miles later (one year) truck is having cold start smoke issues. It fogs out the county with choking, eye watering, blue smoke...

Even though GP’s ohmed out OK, I decided to pull valve covers and look around. Went to pull a GP out and my magnet-on-a-stick did not stick to it to pull it out of the hole. ‘That never happened before’ I said to myself and I pulled all (8) GP’s for a closer look. Then I dug out the packages these GP’s came in.

I also had a set of ‘authentic’ (more authentic???) Motorcraft GP’s to compare.

SOB, they are FAKES.

Here’s the subjects:




Which one is the knock-off??

Left or Right?

I pulled the fake out of the bag and gave it a solid inspection. Package said ‘2016’ - but hey, maybe a dealer/parts store went out of business somewhere and someone bought all the inventory and is slowly selling it off. ( I bought several sets of these for $0.01 each went advance auto stopped carrying them a few years ago). The body of GP had Beru - Made in Germany, etc just like an old GP I compared it to. I noticed just now the package says made in Ireland... ( I also have some authentic made in Ireland GP’s). Anyway, this stuff is laser etched on the fakes and looks/feels like the real ones.





Besides being non-ferrous on the top, the top has a slightly different shape and the crimp thing on upper stem looks different. ALL of the real ones (I have 100’s...) have (6) ‘panels’ and the fakes have just a circle in this area.




As seen in other Motorcraft fakes, the authentic stuff has this air release hole punch thing - but fakes do not. After I saw that video, I started looking at other Motorcraft parts and EVERY SINGLE package had this.




Anyway, I learned something and I am SUPER GRATEFUL this did not end poorly. I hope this helps others who ‘found a better deal’ on Motorcraft parts. Know your vendors!!!

In case you didn’t know, off brand glow plugs can fail and cause catastrophic engine damage. These are autolites (JUNK!!). Narrowly avoided disaster getting these out...



 
  #2  
Old 03-09-2021, 03:48 PM
Sous's Avatar
Sous
Sous is online now
Fleet Owner
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lake Hartwell, GA
Posts: 26,034
Received 4,465 Likes on 2,854 Posts
I saw these GP's in person recently at the GTG with a couple of other FTE'rs. We couldn't believe the differences were so small. The counterfeiters are getting very good at this...

To add to what Jason has said above, a reputable YouTuber has provided some details in the video below.

 
  #3  
Old 03-09-2021, 03:54 PM
cleatus12r's Avatar
cleatus12r
cleatus12r is offline
Butt-Head
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Reed Point, MT
Posts: 8,498
Received 1,975 Likes on 1,108 Posts
The ZD-11s now come from Ford in 2-packs.

 
  #4  
Old 03-09-2021, 06:11 PM
jstihl's Avatar
jstihl
jstihl is online now
Cargo Master

Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,730
Received 323 Likes on 264 Posts
Wow that is crazy how similar they look. Kind of makes me think twice about ipr's and icp's that I have had trouble with in the past as I have found some motorcraft stuff cheap online occasionally. I figured hey it's motorcraft why not . Thanks for posting this, I will definitely only buy from Reputable vendors from Now on! So I understand correctly, the 6 panels you are talking about, is that just underneath the top of the glow plug where the wire plugs in? Still can't believe how similar the glow plugs and packaging looks
 
  #5  
Old 03-09-2021, 06:16 PM
SkySkiJason's Avatar
SkySkiJason
SkySkiJason is offline
Hotshot
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N.GA Mountains
Posts: 12,656
Received 1,898 Likes on 1,145 Posts
Originally Posted by jstihl
So I understand correctly, the 6 panels you are talking about, is that just underneath the top of the glow plug where the wire plugs in? Still can't believe how similar the glow plugs and packaging looks
Yes.

Real.



Fake.


 
  #6  
Old 03-09-2021, 06:21 PM
jstihl's Avatar
jstihl
jstihl is online now
Cargo Master

Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,730
Received 323 Likes on 264 Posts
Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
Yes.

Real.



Fake.

okay great, thankful I got my last set of plugs from Riff Raff. Have you heard of any other Motorcraft parts that might be fakes also?
 
  #7  
Old 03-09-2021, 06:22 PM
Walleye Hunter's Avatar
Walleye Hunter
Walleye Hunter is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Douglassville, PA
Posts: 10,421
Received 888 Likes on 625 Posts
I'm just stuck on this part...
Then I dug out the packages these GP’s came in.
I mean...I just don't know what to say.
 
  #8  
Old 03-09-2021, 06:28 PM
ESwift's Avatar
ESwift
ESwift is offline
cncfab
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 4,453
Received 1,613 Likes on 956 Posts
Darn, now I feel obligated to pull a vc to check....
 
  #9  
Old 03-09-2021, 06:43 PM
ford390gashog's Avatar
ford390gashog
ford390gashog is offline
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Brentwood,CA
Posts: 26,006
Received 519 Likes on 398 Posts
Originally Posted by jstihl
okay great, thankful I got my last set of plugs from Riff Raff. Have you heard of any other Motorcraft parts that might be fakes also?
Biggest ones are the fake filters sold on Ebay and Amazon. The Raccor clones are everywhere along with a ton of fake spark plugs and ignition coils. This is not just Motorcraft but it is happening to all brands. Go looking for Lexus or Toyota parts and it's the same. Go online and you will find a ton of clone Cummins, CAT and Kubota parts all made to look the part at a very steep discount.
 
  #10  
Old 03-09-2021, 06:56 PM
Walleye Hunter's Avatar
Walleye Hunter
Walleye Hunter is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Douglassville, PA
Posts: 10,421
Received 888 Likes on 625 Posts
Counterfeiting is everywhere and it's amazing at what you have to watch for.
 
  #11  
Old 03-09-2021, 10:17 PM
SkySkiJason's Avatar
SkySkiJason
SkySkiJason is offline
Hotshot
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N.GA Mountains
Posts: 12,656
Received 1,898 Likes on 1,145 Posts
Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
I'm just stuck on this part...

I mean...I just don't know what to say.
It was only a year.

(Help me )

 
The following users liked this post:
  #12  
Old 03-09-2021, 11:58 PM
Bitterroot Diesel's Avatar
Bitterroot Diesel
Bitterroot Diesel is offline
Former Vendor
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Florence, MT
Posts: 2,597
Received 693 Likes on 482 Posts
Originally Posted by cleatus12r
The ZD-11s now come from Ford in 2-packs.
He's correct!
 
  #13  
Old 03-10-2021, 08:16 AM
Sous's Avatar
Sous
Sous is online now
Fleet Owner
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lake Hartwell, GA
Posts: 26,034
Received 4,465 Likes on 2,854 Posts
Originally Posted by cleatus12r
The ZD-11s now come from Ford in 2-packs.
Originally Posted by Bitterroot Diesel
He's correct!
Forgive my ignorance and misinterpretation of the American language, are you fellas saying the genuine ZD-11's from Motorcraft come 2 to a bag (pairs) now?
 
  #14  
Old 03-10-2021, 08:23 AM
Bitterroot Diesel's Avatar
Bitterroot Diesel
Bitterroot Diesel is offline
Former Vendor
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Florence, MT
Posts: 2,597
Received 693 Likes on 482 Posts
That is correct.
 
  #15  
Old 03-10-2021, 11:04 AM
cleatus12r's Avatar
cleatus12r
cleatus12r is offline
Butt-Head
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Reed Point, MT
Posts: 8,498
Received 1,975 Likes on 1,108 Posts
You still pay for them individually though - it's not a 2-for-1 deal unless your parts guy mistakenly does it.
 


Quick Reply: Fake Motorcraft glow plugs?? Here are clues...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 PM.