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Old Feb 9, 2024 | 10:52 AM
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Your wagon looks great!

Was the entire 410 miles driven at 70 MPH? I’ve made the 450 mile drive from Philly to/from Columbus OH which is all highway with the exception of a few interchanges and have gotten 14.5 MPG with the cruise set at 65 MPH. My EX has 4.88 gears with 35” highway tread tires that nets an effective 4.39 ratio, it also has Banks headers and runs the 5Star 89 octane performance tune with matching gas.
Yes, all highway. Running 87 octane. Tires set at 50 psi front, 60 rear. I have the SPD Y pipe, with the gadget grooved throttle body. The grooved throttle body definately gave me more power, installed SPD after the groove noticed minimal difference. I pulled an Airstream (4500lbs) out to Jersey a few years back kept it at 60 mph cruise set, as tires were not the greatest averaged 12mpg. Next trip i'll have to try 65 mph not towing, and see what I get. Just turned 44k


 
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 07:00 PM
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Good looking Ex, I rarely see 13 mpg anymore.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
Your wagon looks great!

Was the entire 410 miles driven at 70 MPH? I’ve made the 450 mile drive from Philly to/from Columbus OH which is all highway with the exception of a few interchanges and have gotten 14.5 MPG with the cruise set at 65 MPH. My EX has 4.88 gears with 35” highway tread tires that nets an effective 4.39 ratio, it also has Banks headers and runs the 5Star 89 octane performance tune with matching gas.
65 mph gave me around 12.30 mpg 1100 miles, picked up a travel trailer 5900lbs kept it at 65mph averaged 8 mpg 1100 miles.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tradewind
Avg 12.73 mpg @ 70mph. With 4.30 gears. Best mpg I seen.

Really, that’s the best you’ve seen?

I get better than that while towing my 30ft camper at Texas highway speeds.

Do the gassers Excursions really get that low of fuel mileage on the regular?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:52 AM
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Really, that’s the best you’ve seen?

I get better than that while towing my 30ft camper at Texas highway speeds.

Do the gassers Excursions really get that low of fuel mileage on the regular?
Yes with 4.30 gears on mine anyway. What kind of mileage are you seeing, and what do you have?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:58 AM
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24 3/4" front 25 3/4" rear
Update: After right around 3300 miles total I'm sitting at 24 1/2 front 25 1/2 rear. Sits perfect to me, glad I went with Code V, and C.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tradewind
65 mph gave me around 12.30 mpg 1100 miles, picked up a travel trailer 5900lbs kept it at 65mph averaged 8 mpg 1100 miles.
Interesting that 5MPH slower netted almost .5 less MPG.

Were you towing the TT in OD? If so did it downshift frequently? Was it a box shaped TT or another Airstream like you mentioned earlier?

I know that your EX is just now at 44K miles, but have the plugs and boots been changed? 20 year old rubber plug boots could be bleeding voltage and causing weak spark or even intermittent misses.

I tow a TT at twice the weight of what you mentioned and see the same or better fuel mileage, have done 9.5 MPG on three trips over 400 miles, typically an all highway tow would give about 8.5 to 9 MPG at 65 MPH on fairly flat terrain. The 89 octane performance tune I run really reduces the amount of downshifts out of OD, which helps with the fuel economy and as I mentioned earlier my highway tread tires should also have an advantage over A/Ts like it looks you have. And maybe the Banks headers and free flowing exhaust helps some too, lots of little things can add up. But my lift and fatter tires should be a negative…… And it’s really hard to accurately compare on tow over a certain route to another, too many variables.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
Interesting that 5MPH slower netted almost .5 less MPG.

Were you towing the TT in OD? If so did it downshift frequently? Was it a box shaped TT or another Airstream like you mentioned earlier?

I know that your EX is just now at 44K miles, but have the plugs and boots been changed? 20 year old rubber plug boots could be bleeding voltage and causing weak spark or even intermittent misses.

I tow a TT at twice the weight of what you mentioned and see the same or better fuel mileage, have done 9.5 MPG on three trips over 400 miles, typically an all highway tow would give about 8.5 to 9 MPG at 65 MPH on fairly flat terrain. The 89 octane performance tune I run really reduces the amount of downshifts out of OD, which helps with the fuel economy and as I mentioned earlier my highway tread tires should also have an advantage over A/Ts like it looks you have. And maybe the Banks headers and free flowing exhaust helps some too, lots of little things can add up. But my lift and fatter tires should be a negative…… And it’s really hard to accurately compare on tow over a certain route to another, too many variables.
Minneapolis to Dallas to pick up another Airstream with more hills in overdrive. New plugs and coils about 2 years ago. New air filter. Not windy going to Dallas. I seem to get better mileage with cruise set at 70 gps tracked. On the way back was fighting wind thought that could be the reason for 8mpg. Using a hensley hitch so sway was not a factor. When towing the other trailer from Minneapolis to New Jersey was pretty flat until Pennsylvania. I was thinking it should not have dropped that much with a little over a 1/2 ton weight more. I was guessing a 2mpg drop at most but it was not there. Hitting hills I don't push it, so it stays in overdrive as I don't want the transmission shifting up and down. Hitting hills I'd slow her down and speed back up. I have read you don't want to be shifting in and out of overdrive as it can wreck stuff who knows. I ran at 60mph and was seeing 7.5mpg when I increased speed to 65 I seen 8.5 so I averaged it out around 8. I'm sure the wind and hills had a huge factor in it. I'm also running Falcon Wild Peak ATs. Tire pressure when towing back was 70 front 80 rear. Next set of tires I'm going with highway tires any recommendations?

 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tradewind
Yes with 4.30 gears on mine anyway. What kind of mileage are you seeing, and what do you have?
Well now it’s a 12 valve Cummins, but previous it was a 6.0 ( when the 6.0 ran anyway).

With both engines I’d routinely get 17-18 mpg unloaded. The Cummins really doesn’t get much, if any, better fuel mileage than the 6.0 did.

Towing my 30 foot RV travel trailer around I get low 13s usually ( that’s with the Cummins, never trusted the 6.0 enough to take the travel trailer out very far). And I drive/ tow at the speed limit/ with the flow of traffic, which the speed limit in some parts of west Texas is 80mph, with 75 mph speed limits being really common everywhere.
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This chart doesn't seem to make sense. My 99 F-350 4x4 DRW C&C v10, sticker has SPR: TD with front axle 4,400lb and rear 8,024lb. T should be closer to 2,200lb? D at 4,000+lb may be close.

Spring........Capacity.....Rate lbs/".....Max travel.....V-10 change.....PSD change
D (PSD).....4700lbs.......380 lb/".........5.14"...........+0.33".............0 .00"
T codes.....4400lbs.......390 lb/".........4.63"...........+1.42"............+1 .11"
 
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Old Mar 22, 2025 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jziegler
This chart doesn't seem to make sense. My 99 F-350 4x4 DRW C&C v10, sticker has SPR: TD with front axle 4,400lb and rear 8,024lb. T should be closer to 2,200lb? D at 4,000+lb may be close.

Spring........Capacity.....Rate lbs/".....Max travel.....V-10 change.....PSD change
D (PSD).....4700lbs.......380 lb/".........5.14"...........+0.33".............0 .00"
T codes.....4400lbs.......390 lb/".........4.63"...........+1.42"............+1 .11"

Makes perfect sense, your front T codes with a GAWR of 4400 lbs matches the charts T code listing of 4400 lbs. The capacity on the chart is for the pair of springs, not individually, just like how the door jamb sticker lists them in the GAWR.
And the D codes on the chart are front leaf springs, all of the springs listed on the chart are front springs as explained above, I don’t have a similar chart for the rear springs. But obviously for ‘99 D codes on rears are 8024 lbs for the pair. Also, cab chassis trucks may have completely different rear springs than pickups, I know that at least later models had different length rear springs between pickups and c&c trucks.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 02:58 AM
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Thanks. If the rating is only for front springs, I should look for a D or U to get more load for a plow.
 
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Trucks in that era that had the factory snow plow prep came with the X code front leave springs rated at 6000 lbs for the pair.
 
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