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Apr 15, 2020 | 10:56 AM

Creekside48

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Engine Transmission conversion questions

Ok, I bought a V10 Excursion cheap with the plan of a 6BT swap. The more I think about it I may just go with the DT360 I already have. The adapters I found for the swap require a 4r100 Diesel trans or a 5R110 Diesel trans. What is the best choice being I need a new trans no matter what. If I go with the 4R100 do I need a stand alone controller or can I configure the factory computer to control the new transmission? If I use a 5r110 can I use a 2009-2010 ish TCM? Does anyone besides CSD make the parts for a DT conversion?

Apr 15, 2020 | 02:59 PM

EXSwap

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If I were going to do the swap, and I had to have one of those two, I'd go with the 5R.

Is the DT360 able to be tuned/modded so that it make a little more HP? Those are what 210 max from the factory?

Apr 15, 2020 | 04:38 PM

Creekside48

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Mine is 190 factory, yes they can be modded. Tweaking the pump and a little bigger turbo should bring it to life.

Apr 15, 2020 | 07:37 PM

EXSwap

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Good deal. The 4R should hold, especially if you beef it up a bit and keep it cool. It would be easier being that you already have everything wired for it as they came behind the V10. Is the one you have toast?

Apr 15, 2020 | 11:29 PM

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i would go for the 4r100 i have an 02 ex 6bt with dodge 618 trans and its a turd compared to the 4r100

Apr 16, 2020 | 12:06 AM

Creekside48

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No my transmission is fine. Only has 115k on it. The only bell housing adapters I’ve found is for the 4r100 diesel pattern and the 5r110 diesel pattern

Apr 16, 2020 | 07:49 AM

Mark Kovalsky

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There is only one 5R110 pattern, and it is the same pattern as the gas 4R100.

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Apr 16, 2020 | 09:08 AM

Mark Kovalsky

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Yes, the adapter should work.

If you can get the engine RPM to the gas ECM it should control the trans to make it shift. Will it last? Who knows. The PCM (Ford doesn't call it an ECM) is calibrated to set the pressures for each shift to protect the clutches. Is that enough pressure for the shifts with the engine you're installing? The only way to find out is to build it and see if it destroys the transmission.

Apr 16, 2020 | 10:02 AM

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Creekside48

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It could be worth a shot. Worse case I need a new trans which I was anticipating anyway. I will dig into service information and see what inputs the pcm needs and figure out how to make it happy.