***UPDATED 9-14-2020***

New PID Charting Tool thread can be found at the link below.

PID Charting Tool ***Improved Version***

 

One other free tool that might help is Microsoft XLS viewer https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/xl...ot:overviewtab

It limits what you can do, but it might be perfect for this application - I don't know... everybody's different.

 

Being who I am, I will choose to bypass much of this part... because I would ask for stuff that might be overkill. Instead, I'll extend an invitation to learn how to put this information to use. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...roduction.html

Part 8 was never written, but there's no reason why I can't pick this dusty ball back up off the floor and start rolling it again.

 

Thanks Sous.... this sounds like something I will need.

If I understand from a brief review of the PDF instructions, PID Streaming data is collected via AutoEnginuity, Torque Pro, Forscan or Edge Insight and then transfered to the PID charting tool to be combined and viewed/saved via MS Excel.

Does that sound correct?

 

You are very welcome sir.

You are right that any scan tool program data log like the ones you listed can be input into the PID Charting Tool and a chart will be created.

The color coded chart can be used to identify existing problems, hidden problems, potential problems, performance tuning or to increase awareness on what the PCM is doing behind the scenes.

A lot of times we recommend that people get a scan tool and tell us what the PID readings are when they are having a problem. Now we can recommend certain parameters as well as this PID Charting Tool to them. Then they can upload the chart image, screenshot or the entire file for us to help them in their time of need. Maybe will see what they may not have seen and help them quickly find an answer to their questions.

Think about it, how many times a month do we say "get a scan tool and tell us what your blah blah blah PID reads..."?

Even casual users will easily see and compare temperatures, pressures, fuel application, injector info, etc... They can then make informed decisions on how to improve or change things

I wish I had something like this available to me years ago...

Thanks for commenting and clarifying for yourself and anyone else following along or readers in the future.

 

Thank you to everyone who has put time into it.

 

Lets make this a sticky for the time being.

Stewart

 

PID Charting Tool tutorial video added to the original post.

 

What would be a good set of PIDs to monitor as a "Health Physical" so to speak. Im having no issues just want to see how things are running. I will mainly be using a laptop and Forscan but on longer trips I will probably use the tablet and Torque Pro. I am going to be running some trails in the San Juan Mountains near Ouray, CO. Some of these trails crest 13K ft. I would love to graph the impact of elevation, etc .

 

Well sir, really it is up to you. When I first installed my Borg Warner SXE, I was looking at Intake Air Temperature (IAT) and Manifold Air Temperature (MAT) just so I could compare temperatures. Sometimes people log Injector Control Pressure (ICP) and HPOP Duty Cycle (HPOP DC) to see the condition of their HPOP. Sometimes people log Mass Fuel Desired (MFD) and Injector Pulse Width (Inj PW) to see how the injectors are handling the fuel and the requested fuel levels. Some people monitor Engine Oil Temperature (EOT) and Transmission Fluid Temperature (TFT) just to keep an eye on things.

The PID log data is up to you and that is one of the reasons why this is such a great tool for us to have in our toolbox.

Tugly has some great threads on what to monitor and the OEM/healthy values can be found in the 7.3L PSD Tech Folder.

 

Post number 3 in this thread has a useful link. This might help too:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nd-others.html

Don't take every PID setting in there as gospel, some have changed over the years - but the descriptions of each are valuable.

Links in my signature help with troubleshooting the truck while utilizing a scan tool, and help with how to acquire and use a scan tool.

The biggies while towing:
Engine Oil Temp
Transmission Fluid Temp
Torque Converter Slip
Boost
Exhaust Back Pressure
*I have a "virtual" gauge here. I take EBP and subtract the Manifold Air Pressure to get Turbo Pressure Delta (difference between the two). While it may be the most boring gauge on the screen, it will tell me if the turbo is doing something stupid.

The above are all analog gauges set up on one screen, and I added some digital windows to round to "fill the cracks"
Battery volts (small number)
Clock (bigger to see on a cell phone screen)
Gear (Small number again, I find this more useful than one would suspect).

On a second screen, I threw some fueling analog gauges - for the sake of curiosity and for troubleshooting on short notice (swipe of a finger).
Injector Control Pressure
Injector Pressure Regulator
Fuel Injector Pulse Width

Here is the "kit" for above:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...roke-pids.html

 

Thanks Sous. I have hard gauges for EGT, Trans temp, Oil temp, Water temp, Fuel pressure and boost. I will be following your thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...roke-pids.html

 

I am removing the "sticky thread" status of this thread in order to keep the main page of the 7.3L PSD sub-forum clean and visually appealing.

The PID Charting Tool and thread will remain accessible by all members and visitors until the end of the internet...

 

That must be why I had so much trouble finding it. Now I have it sub'd.

 

Post #1 has been updated as of 6-22-2020. Please see update notes below and in original post.

Due to the data log output/format that FORScan uses, BWST specifically developed an instruction sheet (FORScan Data Log Conversion) and separate Charting Tool (PID Charting Tool FORScan & FSL Only).