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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 08:00 PM
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PID Charting Tool

@BWST has created a more advanced and easier to use PID Charting Tool when using FORScan or FORScan Lite. I had a hand in the creation and testing, but he took on the brunt of the work. I finally managed to finish the instructions on how to use the tool. Details are below...

If you are using FORScan or FORScan Lite (FSL), please go to post #2 or click here!
 
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Attachments updated on 12-27-23!

This PID Charting Tool is for FORScan or FSL only. Please see the attachments for the tool (updated) and the instructions (updated) on how to use the tool.

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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 08:06 PM
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Thanks for doing this @Sous & @BWTS, you guys have really gone the extra mile to make this stuff understandable for some of us who are a little less technically minded. Feel free to delete my comment if you don't want the thread filled with gratitude comments though!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 01:33 PM
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You are very welcome sir!

I (I'm sure BWST does as well) appreciate your comment and gratitude, shows us that people are actually looking at the sticky threads from time to time.

BWST really did a great job and this new and easy to use version has been going back and forth in our emails for months getting the wrinkles ironed out. In my opinion, it is very refined and polished and I hope it leads to people learning a few things about their engine or even better, leads them to a quick repair of their engine and learning a few things.

Thanks again sir, we do appreciate the feedback!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 03:43 PM
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Thanks for doing this @Sous & @BWTS,
Thank you very much - this is something I enjoy contributing to. We appreciate any feedback on this tool and it's use.

Also didn't know there was a user on this site with a similar name to mine BWTS. It comes up as a forum member. Who knew?
 
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Thank you very much - this is something I enjoy contributing to. We appreciate any feedback on this tool and it's use.

Also didn't know there was a user on this site with a similar name to mine BWTS. It comes up as a forum member. Who knew?
Haha, my bad, the worst thing is that because both came up, I actually went back & checked, then still managed to pick the wrong one, must be developing some kind of dyslexia in my old age. Or the short term memory is worse than I thought.......
Back on topic.
What is involved in turning the CSV files into a graph, as you did with the stuff I posted for you in my thread? It would be handy to log on my phone, then analyse it on a big screen.
 
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It always amazes me the quality and depth of skills and knowledge here on FTE!
THANK YOU for this effort. I personally havent logged anything in Forscan, but when I do this will make it easy enough for even me to do it.

Great work.
 
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Originally Posted by Shovelheadrob
Haha, my bad, the worst thing is that because both came up, I actually went back & checked, then still managed to pick the wrong one, must be developing some kind of dyslexia in my old age. Or the short term memory is worse than I thought.......
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What is involved in turning the CSV files into a graph, as you did with the stuff I posted for you in my thread? It would be handy to log on my phone, then analyse it on a big screen.
Really a simple process to make graphs from Forscan/FSL CSVs now with the improved PID charting tool. Take a look at the instructions Sous posted with the charting tool, and let me know if you have specific questions.

What I do when ready to save a log in Forscan Lite on my phone: 1) Send CSV - you can put in your email address, and send the file to your email box. 2) From your big screen device, open your email, and then the CSV in excel and copy the data, 3) open the PID charting tool, and past the data in the PID CSV tab, 4) click the Chart tab and view your graphs on your big tablet/laptop/PC screen.

A Forscan/Forscan Lite tutorial and Q&A thread is coming - I'm rounding up some examples.
 
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Maybe if I'd read the whole of the pdf download, rather than saving it for when I get home, I wouldn't have asked, thanks for your patience lol!
I'll have a play when I get home.
 
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The attachments are recent live data logs I pulled from FSL during a trip to a local campground. The trip was about 25 miles and 35 minutes one way. I had to zip the raw data .csv files together in order to get them to fit under the FTE attachment size limit of 5MB. The .csv files have NOT been altered in anyway, but the "chart" files have been altered in order to get them under the 5 MB size limit. I had to cut out a big portion of the chart log file, so there may be some irregularities when viewing the charts. Things like the speed going from 55 to 10 MPH within a millisecond. If the PID Charting Tool is utilized to view the raw data .csv files, then the charts will be smooth and 100% accurate.

I removed some of the log data from the charts like idle time and very slow driving getting out of the campground and arriving home. I use an OBDLink scan tool which collects data every 12ms. The BAFX scan tool collects data every 40ms.





 
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Just watched the video...very cool. Big question here...is there a datalogging program that works with this tool that is also Mac compatible?
 
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Guess my laptop sucks, can't download xlxs file. logged some pretty good heavy towing and full throttle pull and wanted some opinions.
 
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Originally Posted by MountainManRobb
Just watched the video...very cool. Big question here...is there a datalogging program that works with this tool that is also Mac compatible?
FORSCan works with Mac/fruit devices. I believe FORScan Lite works with iPhone as well, but am not sure. In either case, you want to use the PID Charting Tool in post #2.

The video is the older version of the tool, but still valid for other data logging software like AE or TorquePro. The new version is far superior and far easier to use, but only works with FORScan or FORScan Lite.

In our experience, FORScan provides a much better data logging experience due to sampling rates, ease of use and software robustness.
 
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Guess my laptop sucks, can't download xlxs file. logged some pretty good heavy towing and full throttle pull and wanted some opinions.
Are you having problems getting the file from FORScan save location or having problems uploading the file here to the FTE?

There is a 5MB file size limit.
 
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