Nissan is pulling the plug

 

makes sense sales were horrible

 

but but but it has a cummings!!!

 

something has happened with Nissan
in the 2000's the Titan seemed like a solid truck and was popular
also the Maxima was a good car
idk...

 

They just take to long to update models and they like those crap CVTs to much

 

Personally, the XD Cummins was the perfect choice for me.

I do not tow very heavy or very often, but when I do, the trailer weighs 11,000 lbs. - 12,000 lbs.

I know that all of the Big 3 have 1/2 ton "heavy tow" packages that are rated at 11k-12k lbs. towing. But go to Youtube and read all the comparison tests and the posts from people who have switched from 1/2 tons to the XD. All of them agree that above 9000 lbs. or so, the XD towing is much more stable.

Also, none of the 1/2 tons produce 555 ft-lbs. at 1600 RPM.

Set it and forget it. That's how I like to drive. I can do that with the Cummins. I cannot in a gasser 1/2 ton.

The XD is about 1-2 generations behind the Big 3. And the Cummins is no fuel sipper. But my XD rides comfortably and quietly at 70 MPH. The wife like the ride and quiet, so life is good.

 

You've described the actual problem with the engine. More powerful but significantly thirstier than a half-ton diesel, but nowhere near the capability of a 3/4-ton diesel.

The F-150, Silverado/Sierra 1500, and Ram 1500 all approach the Cummins 5.0 in power-to-weight ratio, and are starting to approach the torque output in direct numbers with the updated Ram 3.0 now rated at 480 lb-ft. All three half-ton diesels can easily hit 30 mpg highway driven reasonably without having to resort to hypermile tactics. On the other end, the F-250, Silverado/Sierra 2500, and Ram 2500 offer a minimum of 850 lb-ft of diesel torque, thus far more capable than the Titan XD. While the niche of the XD works for some like yourself, the majority of buyers didn't see it that way, The two main purposes of a diesel in a light truck are better fuel economy or significant working power. The Cummins 5.0 lacked on both ends to most truck buyers.

Additionally, the poor sales at Nissan meant poor sales for Cummins. Some reports said Cummins was the catalyst because they didn't have the engine sales to justify continued production. Other reports said Nissan was the catalyst because while take rate was sufficient at 50% for the XD, the actual sales numbers were simply too low for them to continue with the extra production costs necessary to build the diesel. Whether it was Cummins, Nissan, or both... the result is the same.

 

I have long been opposed to the "mine is bigger" mentality when it comes to diesel 3/4 tons.

I am satisfied with 300 or so horsepower and 500-600 ft.-lbs. of torque and the better fuel economy that comes with it.

But with most things in my life, it seems, no one really cares what I want.

PS - I was sad to see that the new 7.3L gasser does not hit peak torque until 4000 RPM, although the torque number looks decent at 2500 RPM. But not good enough to get me out of my XD.

 

I agree there's a place for that level of output with better fuel economy than what a gasser will provide. My 2005 Ram Cummins is 325/610 and that's a nice sweet spot for me... one of the reasons I still have the thing after 14 years. The 2020 Ram 1500 diesel at 260/480 with the eTorque mild hybrid system is a more practical truck for me at this point than a 400/1000 Cummins 6.7 in a Ram 3500. The F-150 diesel has limited availability, so I don't want to be caught in a situation where I am forced to select trim level A, packages B and C, and options D, E, F, and G just to have the diesel. (And whomever is drawing and approving the Silverado and Sierra designs need to update their resumes and find new lines of work.)

But for people like you who fit the niche of the Titan XD diesel... unfortunately, there weren't enough of you to make it viable long-term.

 

i prefer my 195 HP 1988 IDI diesel with non wastegated turbo over all of them. it has plenty of power to do whatever i ask it to, and has been doing so perfectly for almost 1/2 million miles.

 

On another note, the Titan Platinum seems to be a great option for those looking for a loaded truck. While it doesn't offer ever single little gadget that the Detroit trucks offer, it's price point is well suited for a loaded truck.

Too bad for the Cummins truck. In my mind, the Titan only competed against the Tundra.