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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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A 1993 uses an remote mounted (not distributor mounted) ICM.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 07:52 AM
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93 used both RLA2005 posted 2yrs back

 
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bad caps look

sometime their obvious

others you have to look twice
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 08:01 AM
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Starting in 1992 all F-series trucks had remote mounted ICM according to all the Ford Wiring diagrams that Ford put out.
Both the EVTM and also the large foldout showed it as remote mounted starting in 1992 but some were remote mounted as early as 1989 with the 460 engine.
My 1993 truck is also remote mounted.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 08:08 AM
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does the pin out change on the grey remote mount vs the grey distributor mount, even though they are both push to start,
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by torq'ta 5 8
does the pin out change on the grey remote mount vs the grey distributor mount, even though they are both push to start,
No it does not, the pin-out at the ICM is the same for 1993 an older trucks.

The statement by RAL2005 does not say that 1992 and 1993 trucks had distributor mounted ICM.
It just says that 1993 and older had the gray module.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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thank you very much subford....as always, so there's 3 different Motorcraft part #'s for our trucks, or is this wrong info?

93 and older
grey distributor mount Motorcraft # DY1074

93 and older
grey remote mount Motorcraft # DY1075

94 and newer
black remote mount Motorcraft # DY1077
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 08:50 AM
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Timing timing timing. If timing is off all it will do is backfire.

You have spark, your ignition is good. I would put old PCM back in.

Did you set engine to 0 deg TDC when stabbing dizzy?

You might possibly have the wrong ICM—as you mentioned you replaced it.

Still, you gotta have this thing timed or we’ll get nowhere fast.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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I said trucks.
The 1993 Mustang SVT Cobra R with engine V8 - 5.0L 302ci GAS MFI vin D - 2 valve OHV did use the gray distributor mounted ICM.
That is why the part listings say 93 and older.
But as we are talking about PU trucks here an the 1992 and 1993 are are all remote mounted.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 11:21 PM
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The computer does not control the Ignition system with the SPOUT removed.
Interesting. I plugged in an Actron scanner and noticed that when looking at the data stream, with the spout disconnected the timing was not stable but moving back and forth 3-4 degrees at idle.
 
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Interesting. I plugged in an Actron scanner and noticed that when looking at the data stream, with the spout disconnected the timing was not stable but moving back and forth 3-4 degrees at idle.
The PCM was telling the Ignition (ICM) to move the timing but the Ignition system (ICM) did not get the message. So the timing was still at 10 deg BTDC if you used a timing light.
 
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