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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by huey67
You need to go to ford tech makuloco on youtube and watch engine timing chain kit replacement parts 1 thru 4 then make a decision, DONT use aftermarket parts, USE ONLY FORD OEM PARTS
Melling BT403 Stock Replacement Timing Chain Tensioner
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Melling BT402 is for left side Melling BT403 is for right (for any newer members looking to reference in future)
 
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 06:04 PM
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Billet chain guides and chain tensioners

Had the timing job done about 8K miles ago. The billet chain guides and tensioners were a $600 upgrade to the $900 OEM timing kit I bought off Amazon, but the retired ford tech that did my timing job said it was a noticable upgrade. He's done a countless number of these jobs and said the limited number of times he's used the billet guides and tensioners has made a noticable difference. He said used in conjunction with "solid" OEM phasers, along with a high volume melling pump, is the single best thing you can do to one of these 3V Ford's as far as longevity goes. He said unlike the nylon/plastic stuff you get from ford, the billet stuff doesn't need any adjustments or rigging, no forcing or nothing. He said they lined right up, fit perfectly, and the first time he starts them up... No rough idle, no white smoke, no nothing. He told me to run a couple cycles of Auto RX before I did the job to clean out all the crap because I changed the vct solenoids along with everything else.
My truck has 155K miles, and there's no rattle, no knocking, no nothing. I also replaced the lash adjusters and followers like F150 stated. I set forth to eliminate all possible issues using all the knowledge I've pirated from this site. Along with using torque pro to monitor real time info I've never felt more in charge of my vehicles health. I have an 11yo son and I live in rural Alabama, I essentially rebuilt my son's truck for him to go the distance. Time will tell, but if it falls out I'll certainly come here to figure it out. Good luck with your rebuild
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1 x 5.4 3V Ford F150 F250 Expedition Billet Timing Chain Guides kit (543500)
= $589.98
Available Upgrades Add MMR Billet Primary Tensioners PN#444050
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Add a MMR T-Shirt for $6.99 - No Thanks: $0.00
Standard Shipping (Shipping to US): $17.90
Shipping Options - Include Insurance (+ 1.50%): $8.85
Total: $616.73

 
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 06:26 PM
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my rebuild parts list

1. Timing chains, sprockets, phasers, etc..)- Amazon vender- Wholesale Direct Parts- $921
2. VCT solenoids x2- same vendor - $139
3. Melling MH360HV $139
4. Melling pickup tube 340S oil pump screen $69
5. Roller followers and lash adjusters- Ford PN- M65293V Rocker Arm, it's the set $296
6. Water Pump - motorcraft PW423 - $35.50
7. Valve cover gaskets, they didn't come with any of the stuff above believe it or not.
Got all the stuff from Amazon except the billet chain guides and tensioners, those came from MMR- modular mustang racing.
Hope this helps.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 06:38 PM
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Very helpful Sean. Thank You!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2019 | 06:40 PM
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My pleasure!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 06:48 AM
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Do these "solid phasers" come in kit from Amazon recommended by Ford TeckMakUloco? I already ordered the Mellings steel guide tensioners from Mellings for $102 total so not going with MMR on tensioners. Ordered the guides from MMR this morning.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 07:46 AM
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The stuff from MMR- is pretty cool.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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Looking damn good! Thanks for quick reply. I'm currently waiting on $3,000 worth of parts so diagnosing, researching and fixing problems and installing parts as they come in. I kept oil pan off because F150Torqued mentioned using air hose to blow out canals that lash adjusters sit in so I wasn't sure if a lot of gunk would end up in pan and then recirculated. Got a trash bag swaddled around crankshaft.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 07:55 AM
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Sorry it's off topic but what a fine looking morning!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 07:57 AM
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It's all back together now, those pics are from when it was in the shop.
Nice morning indeed.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 08:03 AM
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The phasers I used came in this kit which worked out good. On sale now too for a couple hundred bucks cheaper...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 08:03 AM
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One last question then I'll be gone. Do You get on this site on a computer? I used to be able to access full site which was much easier to analyze in it's entirety but now full site on phone is like the phone mode setup? I didn't buy a Note 8 to have a RazRs' capabilities so was wondering if the site has been reformatted..
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 08:04 AM
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Sweet! That's the same kit I ordered to the T
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 08:07 AM
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It would seem you've got good ingredients, please keep us posted on your progress. And you know we all love pics! What viscosity oil do you plan on going with once the job is done?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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Going with Ford Makulocos advice on 5W-30. We're pretty hot down here so I've heard I can run 10W-30 but with 280,000 miles I don't want to risk anything I don't have too. This is my first synthetic ever run. Engine a bit dirty inside but I think I'll change a few times at 1,000 miles to see if I can flush. I was wondering if I seafoam with new svts will it potentially free gunk from engine and clog them but don't think I can budget time and hassle to reinstall old runs to run seafoam in oil the take off valve covers to put new ones but it's close on my decision, ain't too hard really
 
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