I came out of a 14 jeep srt8.... im happy with my XLT f250 and there is no comparison. To compare those two vehicles is stupid for anyone to do as they have completely different purposes. No i wouldn't purchase a explorer over a jeep grand cherokee

 

Well, if it wasn’t a credit issue, why wasn’t he approved. 🤔
He made it sound like he was approved in the past.

 

Maybe he didn't provide the proper verification, maybe it was out of date? I dont know. I do know that I just recently certified my business with Ford and it had nothing whatsoever to do with credit. All that's needed is proof of ownership in a way that is acceptable to them. They provide a list of acceptable forms that can be uploaded.

They provide a phone# so the OP could have easily found out why he was denied.

 

Looks like to me he never really wanted a real truck to being with. Lame excuse

 

I just built a new Ram Bighorn with every option and it was $48 & change. Someone is lying

 

Did you place the order??? 😂

 

I'm guessing there's some mixup between Ram BigHorn and Ram Longhorn. The BigHorn is the XLT equivalent. The Longhorn (or Laramie Longhorn) is the Platinum/Limited equivalent.

As a former Ram owner, people get 'em confused all the time, but they're on opposite ends of the price range.

 

Ram Bighorn/Longhorn/Jeep/ FCA all make me puke..

 

The only thing I don't like about them is the fact that they are Italian-owned, and made in Mexico. In my case, the truck is made in Mex and the engine is made in the US. With my Super Duty, the truck was made in the US with the engine made in Mex. Otherwise, the RAM trucks are very American. They use the same axles as GM trucks, the chassis are made by a US company, and most of the interior pieces are made by Tier 1 US auto suppliers.

 

Truck's assembled in Mexico with a Mexican frame(metalsa), Mexican made axles, Mex built body, Interior is not tier 1 if that means durability with cheap plastic rivets holding the door panels on. There is a reason that FCA can undercut GM and Ford by thousands.

About the only components I can think of being made or assembled in the USA is the transmission and transfercase.

Cummins uses a Chinese block and many components like the waterpump.

And no I'm not happy about the 6.7 Ps assembled in Mexico. But the truck with its American built frame, axles and body keeps thousands employed for our economy. The 6.2 gas is also built here while FCM builds the 6.4 in, you guessed it, Mexico.

I like the Mexican people, I don't like outsourcing when other companies can build it here.

 

Yep, the blocks are cast in China (up to 2018). Starting in 2019, the now CGI blocks are cast by Tupy of Brazil, same place Ford 6.7L blocks are cast. My truck being a standard shift, the transmission is made in Germany. The Aisin high output automatic is made in Japan I believe. Only the RFE automatic is made in the US. The transfer cases are Borg Warner; I have no idea where they are made. Water pumps are mostly made in China; 6.7L Ford pumps are made in Mexico. Final assembly of the engines is, of course, in Indiana.

I work for a company in the metal cutting industry. Metalsa is a good customer of ours. They have production locations in the US. It turns out in the case of the RAMs the frames are made by one of their MX locations.

Axles are standard fare AAM, same used by General Motors on their HD trucks.

I've had the door panels off on my truck. They are held on with many plastic location hooks behind the door panel and use the rivets just at the edges with no stress on them. I've had the door panels off on many vehicles and this design is common, better than the christmas tree style plastic clips used on other vehicles. Most of the electronics are made by Continental, which is Tier 1.

If you think Ford (or GM) is making a higher quality truck, you are fooling yourself. Virtually all of the major components are coming from well-reputed companies, no different than Ford or GM. The fact that most of this is produced in MX is simply a result of final assembly being done there. Shipping is very expensive. I certainly prefer US made, and I like Ford the best, but having owned my RAM for about 5 months and 7k miles, I don't see any major quality differences between the two. In fact, I find some areas where the RAM is superior. Likewise, I can find other areas where Ford is superior.

 

Those little plastic rivets are what broke on the 2014 I owned. They hold the inner grab handle to the door card. It's little idiosyncratic things like this, frame weld uniformity, and a front end that doesnt like to stay tight that drove me away.

I'm not arguing that the Ford truck is superior overall, but you can be sure it's superior for our economy. GM even more so.

 

I've had six Ford Super Duty trucks including two 2017 models (a 350 dually and a 250). Loved all of them. But this RAM tracks better down the road than any Ford I've every had in the Super Duty line. Don't get me wrong...I've never had bump steer with any of them. But this RAM seems a hair tighter. Maybe that will change with miles.

Believe me, I could cite a number of areas I feel the Ford is superior. And I'm with you 100% on the USA thing. I'm willing to spend more to get US made. But in this case I really wanted to try a manual-shift truck and that's something Ford or GM couldn't offer me.

I'm happy to hear that FCA is (eventually) shifting RAM HD production back to Michigan.

 

Bye Felicia