The truck nav is useful when there is limited cell coverage. I had that few times this summer in Wyoming, Montana, Utah and Arizona

 

Same, I few times I've lost cell coverage and truck GPS come to the rescue, even one time that I used Android auto and have pretty good signal it sent me to the back of the block and the truck GPS sent me to the right address

 

that is surprising that the with carplay it uses the trucks GPS signal and not the phones.

 

 

So I am having the same issue with this. unfortunately if you want a camera in the rear it does disable the NAV. This had us miss an exit this weekend and was very frustrating. I did talk to the tech line this morning and he is aware of it and he told me that it was originally on there site to describe this but he was told to "take it off". one could only assume as its a negative part of there product and they want to hide it. I am having another issue with mine as well but he told me to recheck all of my pins and I will get back to him.

 

 

my turn signal cameras are not working and the only way I can get the screen to go "home" from the rear camera is if I tap the camera button twice so it does to the front camera, and then once more for it to return home.

 

 

Thanks for the info, great thread. My truck is still on order, but I've been looking for something like this, so I've got one on order now.
I noticed in the install manual it states:

"Optional: If the user wants to use an analog trigger for camera display, wire the INPUT (for the forced feature desired) to a toggle switch so that the INPUT wire receives 12v (+) when activated. See pin out chart on page 2."

So has anyone done this - used an upfitter maybe to activate? What does this actually accomplish? No need to tap the camera button the first time to view?

Thanks again!

 

I'm wondering that too - would be neat to use one of those switches for something...

 

Hi guys! My name is Brendon and I work in product development at NAV-TV (we manufacture the COD-F5 interface). Glad to be here and I'm thrilled to see your interest in our products. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have. At NAV-TV we thrive on customer feedback and our mission (among a few) is to provide the best support in the 12v industry.


Any forcing of rear cameras (possibly including blinker cams) will affect GPS navigation, both OEM and CarPlay/AA nav guidance briefly - this is because we must send a reverse camera command to the screen. Front camera forcing should not affect NAV guidance, however.

Hi 50stangpower, we've likely spoken to you about this already, but what version SYNC 3 are you on? You'll want to be updated to the latest.

For an infotainment system to be CarPlay certified, the phone must receive GPS data and possibly VSS data, thus the NAV guidance will be affected on both.

Double tapping will only force FRONT camera options. A single press will force REAR camera options. I'd have to double check if you're able to see the AUX camera when in this mode. I'll get back to this soon.

Hi again 50stangpower, I believe you spoke with me on the phone. I do apologize for the confusion. It is a negative for the product, but we were only unsure of that fact at the time of writing the manual. Unfortunately the only way around the GPS being affected briefly when forcing (any) rear cam is to filter the LVDS video connection on the APIM (screen), which we've considered but the engineering and resulting cost of such a device would not be nearly as good of a deal as the COD-F5.

Hi fleming, something isn't right. I'll ask you the same, do you have the latest SYNC version on your radio? if not, please update and report back. If you guys are on the latest, there is a small chance that there is a problem with one of the T-Harnesses.. the pins on the IPM (camera module) harness are pretty thin and easily bent. If you're feeling adventurous this weekend, take the dash back apart and check every pin on each T as well as at the 18-pin (our module) and look for either bent/pushed pins or bad crimps.

Hi Patrick, this was the intent for this release, but we discovered a little later on that this wouldn't be so easy without programming some things in the truck (which we're not keen on digging into at the moment), so we may do something with the next hardware revision to add another additional camera. For the release of the COD-F5 that you guys have now, none of the input/output wires are used at all.



If you guys have any further questions I'll do my best to answer.

 

Hi Brendon, glad to see you here!

I just installed the COD-F5 in my 2018.

I had one feedback item. The installation doc and website document a USB cable as part of the package, but was not in the box.

My first pass at install came up with no camera available. The harness connector into the camera module did not seat, even tho the retainer clicked into place. Pull out, push in again and all is ok.

I used a zip tie to hold your control box so it wouldn't rattle. Maybe a zip tie in the box would help others.

Looks good so far!

Sam

 

Hi Sam, thanks for the feedback and the welcome. You're right, the USB cable needs to be removed from the kit BOM. We added a USB on the board for updates, but this first run of (~100) kits will not SW upgradeable, so the USB cable was pulled. I'll have the manual updated this coming week. The next hardware revision will USB upgradable, but will not be likely not be sold for less than retail ($450).

As for your first attempt and not showing the camera (any of them), this had to have been a slight misalignment of the IPM T-harness connection, and you got it square on your second attempt. Note that in this SYNC 3 system, you can fully leave the camera module disconnected and the radio will fully work until you do anything that requires showing a camera. So if there was a camera issue and everything else was good (radio screen visual and sound etc), then the issue was likely that specific T-harness.

We've thought about adding zip ties or a velcro strip to our kits, but the vast majority of our kits are sold to 12v install dealers and not retail or DIY guys and they typically have this stuff already. Appreciate the feedback either way though!

 

Thanks for the quick response. Yes, all the other apim functions worked ok, just not camera.

Weird trying to backup without camera after years of using them!

Zip tie. Ok, good info on your regular market user.

Any chance us 1st batch guys could get an updated box? Assuming the harness won't change

 

I agree, glad to see you here Brendon! On an open forum like this, you have the chance of getting beat on but you all must be willing to stand behind your product. That's good product support! sdetweil has a great question, Any chance us 1st batch guys could get an updated box that would support firmware upgrades?

Thanks