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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 09:21 PM
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Did Lighting stall my engine?

Has anyone ever had their truck stall while driving near lightning? I spent the week of the 4th on the Colorado River in AZ. On Friday, we were chased off of the water by T-storms. I quickly got the boat on the trailer and drove back to the house, about 4 miles away. There was no rain, but some crazy dust storms and lightning. Four times during that drive, my truck shut down, tach went to zero, gauge cluster lit up with SES, water in fuel, ABS...everything. It would only last for a few seconds each time, then back to normal with all warning lights off. I’ve experienced this before when I had HIDs with my DP chip, but adding a ferrite choke bead cured it.

My my first thought was CPS, but Forscan didn’t show any codes (except for the ones I know about, which are related to known issues I need to address, 2wd solenoid and the like)

The next day, everything was fine to the launch ramp and back as well as my 3 1/2 hour drive home on Sunday.

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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 11:22 PM
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Did you have your wipers on? Certain crank sensors are affected by the intermittent wipers
 
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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 11:51 PM
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No wipers, it was only a dust storm.
 
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A bad ground somewhere on the truck might cause such a symptom with lightning.

The explanation is complex (or I have not had enough coffee to express it simply). But I'll try...

Lightning makes a field around the bolt detectable at great distance. It only takes a couple of volts of "signal flap" to confuse a computer.

The truck body could be considered a Faraday cage and provide shielding, but the truck body is not grounded. So the body picks up the signal. If there is a bad ground, then that ground does not "come along for the ride."

This causes a "signal flap" (expressing an idea since the right technical term is not coming to mind).
 
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Originally Posted by DogRidesInBack
A bad ground somewhere on the truck might cause such a symptom with lightning.

The explanation is complex (or I have not had enough coffee to express it simply). But I'll try...

Lightning makes a field around the bolt detectable at great distance. It only takes a couple of volts of "signal flap" to confuse a computer.

The truck body could be considered a Faraday cage and provide shielding, but the truck body is not grounded. So the body picks up the signal. If there is a bad ground, then that ground does not "come along for the ride."

This causes a "signal flap" (expressing an idea since the right technical term is not coming to mind).
I believe the term you’re looking for is EMI (electromagnetic influence). I’m familiar with the science, but I’m more curious if anyone else has experienced it. I vaguely remember reading a thread many years ago about a truck that stalled in the same place, almost every day in the same spot, but I haven’t been able to find that thread.

Edit: I found some links. Thanks Stewart!

Originally Posted by Stewart_H
You don't have much info listed on the type of Ex you have, but based on your CPS comment, as well as your problem, I'm guessing you have a 7.3L PSD, yes?



RFI is actually a known problem for 7.3L powered rigs that have an aftermarket ICP or two-ways, or CB's and stuff with exposed (unshielded) coax cables.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13680518

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13477561

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13754957

Stewart
 
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Old Jul 14, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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With Lightning, Close enough, It could Either or both...... Even closer, could be Frying Bacon Time! God's own EMP Burst..
 
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