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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 04:09 PM
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Starter issues in cold weather Please help!!!

It’s been cold here the last week or so truck gelled up and batteries died on me a week ago got the truck home changed filters and recharged batteries now I’m having an issue with the starter changed it once already still sounds like it’s missing /grinding flywheel but only on first start up after it’s been sitting in the cold once it warms up it’s fine thought maybe I got a bum starter so I returned it reinstalled another new one and same issue I’m stumped on what it can be I had zero issues before it died on me last week pls help!!! two bad starters seems unlikely battery voltage seems to be sitting around 13.5 while truck is running according to tuner
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 04:40 PM
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If you can capture a phone vid it would help.

Running voltage doesn’t give a good picture of the batteries overall condition, especially sitting in the cold overnight. If you have a voltmeter a quick check would be to pull the neg terminal off one batt, then check the voltage of each. It should be in the 12.5-12.6 range. The better method is to check the batteries with a real battery checker at an auto parts store. From the work I’ve done they can be checked when driving to the store, but you need to pull one neg terminal when they are checked.

Pulling one neg terminal allows you to check each battery individually, but by keeping the other in place you do not loose the trucks electronic memory.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 04:42 PM
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Also, checking the ground points as well as the terminals for clean condition is also imperative. Also a relook at the wire condition at the starter lug may not hurt.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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Ok I’ll try that thanks!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 09:43 PM
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Hmm......where did you get the starter
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 08:39 AM
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Hmm......where did you get the starter
I got it at advanced auto motor craft it’s actually the second one I thought the first one might have been junk
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 09:38 AM
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Sounds like old school case of it not being shimmed correctly, however I have never heard of a 6.0 starter needing to be shimmed for alignment. It should not be grinding or hittting anything, period, unless something happened to the flywheel and you have a case of a runaway starter and don't know it.

Anyone else?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by navistarnut
Sounds like old school case of it not being shimmed correctly, however I have never heard of a 6.0 starter needing to be shimmed for alignment. It should not be grinding or hittting anything, period, unless something happened to the flywheel and you have a case of a runaway starter and don't know it.

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Ya it’s weird it only does it when it’s very cold today high of 20’s and it’s fine yesterday was below zero and it was acting up only on first start up almost like the bendix is frozen I’m stumped like I said it was fine before it got really cold I was thinking maybe batteries are getting weak
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 11:13 AM
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I have a sneaking feeling batteries. They have been dead and recharged as you
said then it time to take them in for a load test.

Low power levels can cause the solenoid to not engage fully.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 11:28 AM
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Sean is right about having them checked. If it is the batteries you should be experiencing a slower rotation of the motor and if you’re monitoring voltage a lower drop during initial engagement. Not sure if the solenoid contact for the starter motor in this version is spring loaded and can engage the motor before full extension. If so, these rebuilt starters may have been rebuilt with excessive lubricant or a lubricant that is more viscous in cold then the factory specs in the moving spline area, which may hamper engagement just enough to cause the issue your experiencing. Normally it shouldn’t, but god knows with a rebuilt.







 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 12:29 PM
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Ok I’ll test them today when I get home I’ve tried everything else I know with these trucks I’ve read that they kinda go haywire with low batteries thanks for the advise guys!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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If you find the batteries are OK the nest step would be a voltage drop
test on the cables.

Here is a good How to on Youtube.


BTW This also works on the ground side.
Just takes more work if you have an issue.
 
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Ok, before you go and get all crazy. Tighten the solinode bolts. I'll bet they are loose........ don't ask me how I know.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 08:29 PM
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Ok, before you go and get all crazy. Tighten the solinode bolts. I'll bet they are loose........ don't ask me how I know.
Good idea, op be sure to let the board know how you fixed it.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 10:08 PM
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Ok, before you go and get all crazy. Tighten the solinode bolts. I'll bet they are loose........ don't ask me how I know.
I am betting the same way I know.
 
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