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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 03:32 PM
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911 has a high alcohol content. Not good for fuel systems.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 03:50 PM
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I would not use the Power Service Diesel 911 either based on what the dealer told me, but they also said the Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement +cetane boost (white bottle, not red) is a very different product and fine for the 6.7 diesel engines. Of course, I am taking their word for it and not pushing the product. It seems to have worked for me in this situation and I don't plan on using it again once heading back south.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 03:51 PM
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Whatever fuel additives you use be sure that they have demulsifiers to allow the water separator to do it's job. Emulsifiers suspend water in the fuel as tiny droplets and allows it to pass through the entire fuel system. I believe that Ford recommends only additives that contain demulsifiers.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 04:05 PM
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Newbie here and no truck yet. At what temps should you use anti-gel? Want to add that info to my list.
We don’t normally have sustained sub zero temps where I live. Never had to use it. But if the temps drop below zero, I think it’s worth it.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 04:10 PM
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We don’t normally have sustained sub zero temps where I live. Never had to use it. But if the temps drop below zero, I think it’s worth it.
Thanks. I should be fine but will keep it in mind if in a colder area.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 06:12 PM
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Exact thing happens to me. Not enough anti gel. Dealer warmed it up overnight and changed out the filters. Got the same warning low pressure. They make a anti gel called 911 that works great but still change out the filters. I carry that with me all the time now
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by docup!
Exact thing happens to me. Not enough anti gel. Dealer warmed it up overnight and changed out the filters. Got the same warning low pressure. They make a anti gel called 911 that works great but still change out the filters. I carry that with me all the time now
Read above about 911 Don't use it in 6.7
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 07:49 PM
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For those of you suggesting a fuel filter change, do you also suggest the water filter be changed as well? I see they sell a kit (FD4625) that includes both.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 08:00 PM
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The anti-gel only works when the fuel is above the cloud point, usually around 32F, so if one is buying fuel from an above ground tank its at ambient temp. If you are lucky enough to have a heated garage for your truck the additive will then blend to keep fuel from gelling.

If traveling and the low fuel pressure light illuminates an option is to let it idle as the return fuel will eventually warm the lower fuel filter.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 08:03 PM
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Fuel filters are sold in a pair. You have two, always change in pairs.


Never use 911.


I use the ford anti gel for sustained temps below 20F.


Carry a spare set of filters. Weather you want to or not, if you are somewhere that you get the gelling, you can always change them out. May not be pleasant, but you will be able to continue on your way.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 11:01 PM
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I'll just add that the other night it was -15, and though I never received any warnings, my truck was downshifting on hills it never would have before. I do keep an extra set of filters in the truck though, I've found that once they clog from wax, they never really fully recover and should just be replaced.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 07:56 AM
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The dealer has my filters in I ordered yesterday; I'll be changing the filters tonight. Truck was plugged in all night (-11F this AM) and started OK, but once again had very little power going up hills. I don't work the throttle hard when the engine is this cold, maybe it's characteristic. Transmission was staying in low gears a long time, but that is probably a warm-up strategy.

When you change out the filter on the frame (on a 2017) how does the fuel stop flowing from the tank? My fuel tank is nearly full.

My understanding is you drain the entire housing, then unbolt the bottom and pull the filter out. Clean the housing, install new o-ring seal, install new filter, reinstall and tighten bolts. Then do underhood filter which is easier I guess (nothing to drain). Then do the air purge procedure by turning key on / off 6 times?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 08:02 AM
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Generally, opening up the valve and then start to remove the bowl will stop the flow.


A delayed shifting during cold weather is built into the system.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 08:05 AM
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Generally, opening up the valve and then start to remove the bowl will stop the flow.


A delayed shifting during cold weather is built into the system.
Thanks senix. The 2017 trucks have a rectangular filter housing instead of the bowl design that unscrewed as the 2011-2016 trucks have.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 08:05 AM
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The dealer has my filters in I ordered yesterday; I'll be changing the filters tonight. Truck was plugged in all night (-11F this AM) and started OK, but once again had very little power going up hills. I don't work the throttle hard when the engine is this cold, maybe it's characteristic. Transmission was staying in low gears a long time, but that is probably a warm-up strategy.

When you change out the filter on the frame (on a 2017) how does the fuel stop flowing from the tank? My fuel tank is nearly full.

My understanding is you drain the entire housing, then unbolt the bottom and pull the filter out. Clean the housing, install new o-ring seal, install new filter, reinstall and tighten bolts. Then do underhood filter which is easier I guess (nothing to drain). Then do the air purge procedure by turning key on / off 6 times?
If you have an early build truck it will not stop with a full tank. They did not install a check valve in the vent line and it will continue to drain unless you have a low amount of fuel remaining. I have experienced this with my truck. First time i did the filters it stopped the next time i did them it kept draining. Due to difference in fuel level.

If you have a later build date, i dont know when they fixed this, you have a check valve installed and it will stop draining.

If you have the early model you have to pull the middle line on top of your tank to get the fuel to stop draining. Then you can change them as normal.

Its gonna suck if you dont have a heated work area to do this.
 
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