Can anyone validate this comment?
Let me simplify it.
$48500 = my msrp
$42000 = what I paid
$6500 = the discount off MSRP
6500/48500= .134 Or.... 13.4% off
So yeah it’s REAL simple.
Again, holdbacks and rebates and random dealer “fees” are absolutely designed to confuse the buyer.
MSRP: $70,400
Paid: 59,600
Discount: 15.3%
Purchased just this week.
Myself and others are trying to offer advice for people who are trying to understand vehicle pricing because some of us have worked in the industry. Somehow this got off a tangent where a few people like you are actually fighting AGAINST helpful information.
You aren't contributing to this thread.
Let that sink in for a moment.

has everyone had their coffee this morning??
i think for most of us the days of a smile and a handshake when buying cars are no more. I think it is respectable that people can have a good enough relationship with a dealer that they can simply trust that they are getting a fair deal.
I dont have the luxury of long term dealer relationships because I have to move every 3-4 years. I buy a different vehicle for me or my wife at every place I’m stationed and I’ve always had dealers try to play different games. I have bought from dealers who were total A-holes because they have the best deal, but most of the time I get the best deals from places that are just honest and up front with what their best deal is.
This last purchase was the first time a dealer had tried to use the printed invoice as a negotiation tool, trying to convince me there was no room to move on the price. They led with it right off the bat. And they ran through all the numbers so quickly and scribbled so much on the sales sheet that it would have been easy for someone to be convinced they were telling the truth. But it was all a sales tactic and they lost a sale because they took too long to agree to my terms.
They tried to beat me up & nickel and dime me, but I stood my ground and ended up with a better deal from somewhere else. Which ended up being a place that didn’t try playing any games.
Let me simplify it.
$48500 = my msrp
$42000 = what I paid
$6500 = the discount off MSRP
6500/48500= .134 Or.... 13.4% off
So yeah it’s REAL simple.
Again, holdbacks and rebates and random dealer “fees” are absolutely designed to confuse the buyer.
Dealer discounts alone, if you've negotiated at or below invoice pricing then you've got a good deal. Then apply all the rebates and incentives on top of that for the final price.
Just got my VIN yesterday. 2018 F 350.
I am working with a dealership that uses the Costco membership plan.
Most usually the vehicle is on the lot and then the paper work starts.
Because I wanted specific things and not others I placed an order before the SD’s were being built.
So, the MSRP and invoice price were provided , so I would have an idea how much I would be paying.
When the truck arrives, the salesman said we will sit down and he will give a price below invoice.
I am thinking that being a Costco dealership in a city of 40k persons, volume is what it is all about.
I did look at the NADA build pricing guide, and all looked appropriate.
So when the truck comes in and we sit down, what can I expect?
First time I used Costco....
In reality, the final deal is determined by how bad the dealer wants to move the vehicle and how much you are willing to pay. But being that it’s the exact truck you want and the dealer knows that, they might not give you anything super amazing over the Costco deal.
You could always try the angle of maintenance and warranty plans for a few dollars over cost as a way to sweeten your deal.
just remember, this is the EXACT truck you want! So just stay stoked regardless! Lots of people pay way over invoice for trucks that either don’t have exactly what they want or have options they didn’t want to pay for.
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All good things.
I did not receive an e-mail from Costco. I did receive a customer survey asking what I thought about the process.
As I stated, this is something new to the dealership, Costco and myself.
I gave a $1k deposit.
So rebates, financing,or anywhere where the dealership can add profit, probably will be on the table.
What got me to Costco was other dealerships saying $500 to $ 1000 over invoice on an order.
I know a little about hold back, and less regarding quarterly incentives and volume sales bonuses.
I also believe that there is bait and switch going on, but I felt confident when I did the NADA Build guide.
I am proud of the persons on this forum going for the best deal!
Unfortunately, I got the short end of the stick when I bought my 2005 6.0, but survived to say I am a Super Duty fan.
Confession, my youngest child is a traveling diesel mechanic for a major west coast firm!
So hair pulling was at a minimum.
I still own my 05 and I trust it, but fuel economy and comfortably even though a lariat has made an opening to move on.
Most vehicles gets you just about to invoice pricing right off the bat. It's easy with zero negotiating involved and still gets a good deal.
As a sales consultant there was no gross in it for me at all, so it was always a mini-pay. However, I loved Costco customers because the deals were straightforward and simple. Most deals I could wrap in an hour.
So if you're not into negotiating and if you find a dealer that likes Costco customers, it's worth the time saving and relief from stress.











