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Hello, Im sure there are a 100 answers to this but I have the worst time figuring out how to move through these forums!
Have a 1973 F100 4x4, had the cab sand blasted for a restoration and the guy stripped my vin sticker tag. (AFTER I MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO NOT BLAST THIS AREA!!!) anyway, now I no longer have the sticker. Now what??? I have the tag on the door but the door is damaged and I bought a replacement door ( It's tag is still on it too)Anyway to get a new sticker?
The legal VIN varies from state to state... Some states only go by the frame's VIN.... Some states are too busy to verify them and go by the riveted warranty plate.
If you are putting a replacement/different dvrs door on, take the old damaged door tag off (carefully grind the alum rivets with a dremel) and transfer it to your new door. Marti has the rivets.
I would be careful with this stuff guys. As someone who works in law enforcement, grinding off a vin plate rivet, even with good intentions, is a felony in most states
I would be careful with this stuff guys. As someone who works in law enforcement, grinding off a vin plate rivet, even with good intentions, is a felony in most states
The only legal VINs according to Ford are the two stamped into the Frame. The metal tag in the pictures above is riveted to the driver's door, so I don't think counts as a legal VIN in any state since it is connected to an easily removable body part. This is also the reason that you need to be extra careful when purchasing these old trucks and compare the VIN on the title to the VIN on the frame. Often if the door has been replaced over the years the tag probably wasn't, so sometimes you get a title with a VIN that matches the frame (correct) and sometimes you get a title that matches only the door (possible legal issues).
Correct, removing or altering a VIN plate is illegal even on the Federal level, however, these are not VIN plates. Ford calls them a "warranty plate". Dentsides don't actually have a VIN plate. The official VIN is stamped on the frame in two places, this is the actual VIN.
Marti is licensed by Ford to reproduce them so there's no problem.
I would be careful with this stuff guys. As someone who works in law enforcement, grinding off a VIN plate rivet, even with good intentions, is a felony in most states. It's not a "VIN" plate.
1963/79: Warranty Plate riveted to the left door face below the latch.
When Ford stamped the VIN on the Warranty Plate, it was called the Warranty Number and Ford said it was not to be used for title or registration purposes.
The 'usual' reason why:
People replaced damaged left doors with used doors. 99.9% of the time, they failed to install the original Warranty Plates on the replaced doors.
1980 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline were the first to have a VIN plate. This is located on the left corner of the dash, visible thru the windshield, has the VIN only stamped on it.
Passenger Cars were required to have a VIN plate in 1968, but the trucks were not until 1980.
The problem is: People call the Warranty Plate a VIN tag or VIN plate, but FoMoCo never did.
If the warranty tag on the left door is not the legal vin tag than we shouldn't need special rivets to hold it on. Besides how many LEOs will actually check the tag at a pull over?
You don't "need" the correct rivets, it just looks better that way and doesn't make people (LEO's included) unnecessarily suspicious when they look at the warranty plate. I know if I was buying a truck and saw one put on with regular old pop-rivets, I would scrape away on the frame until I found the actual VIN stamping, or walk away if I could not verify the VIN.