Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums (https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php)
-   1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks (https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum38/)
-   -   Vin sticker replacement (https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1514948-vin-sticker-replacement.html)

Pirate Mike 11-07-2017 02:17 PM

Vin sticker replacement
 
Hello, Im sure there are a 100 answers to this but I have the worst time figuring out how to move through these forums!
Have a 1973 F100 4x4, had the cab sand blasted for a restoration and the guy stripped my vin sticker tag. (AFTER I MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO NOT BLAST THIS AREA!!!) anyway, now I no longer have the sticker. Now what??? I have the tag on the door but the door is damaged and I bought a replacement door ( It's tag is still on it too)Anyway to get a new sticker?:-huh

HIO Silver 11-07-2017 02:37 PM

...I'd think twice about having any other work done by the knucklehead who blasted the truck.

Contact Marti Auto Works: Marti Auto Works - Concourse Quality, Hobbyist Price

The legal VIN varies from state to state... Some states only go by the frame's VIN.... Some states are too busy to verify them and go by the riveted warranty plate.

Pirate Mike 11-07-2017 02:38 PM

Thanks! I just found that on the site.

77&79F250 11-07-2017 04:00 PM

If you are putting a replacement/different dvrs door on, take the old damaged door tag off (carefully grind the alum rivets with a dremel) and transfer it to your new door. Marti has the rivets.

mikeo0o0o0 11-07-2017 07:32 PM

3 Attachment(s)
YES! Marti does great work.
Here's what Marti's Fed Cert and warranty tag looks like along with the rivets.

Dane Laster 02-11-2019 11:07 PM

You can get hold of Vehicle VIN Stickers. They will make you a replacement VIN sticker. Vehicle Vin Stickers

Rowdy73 02-12-2019 06:57 AM

I would be careful with this stuff guys. As someone who works in law enforcement, grinding off a vin plate rivet, even with good intentions, is a felony in most states

77highboy77 02-12-2019 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Rowdy73 (Post 18477571)
I would be careful with this stuff guys. As someone who works in law enforcement, grinding off a vin plate rivet, even with good intentions, is a felony in most states

The only legal VINs according to Ford are the two stamped into the Frame. The metal tag in the pictures above is riveted to the driver's door, so I don't think counts as a legal VIN in any state since it is connected to an easily removable body part. This is also the reason that you need to be extra careful when purchasing these old trucks and compare the VIN on the title to the VIN on the frame. Often if the door has been replaced over the years the tag probably wasn't, so sometimes you get a title with a VIN that matches the frame (correct) and sometimes you get a title that matches only the door (possible legal issues).

mikeo0o0o0 02-12-2019 06:14 PM

Correct, removing or altering a VIN plate is illegal even on the Federal level, however, these are not VIN plates. Ford calls them a "warranty plate". Dentsides don't actually have a VIN plate. The official VIN is stamped on the frame in two places, this is the actual VIN.
Marti is licensed by Ford to reproduce them so there's no problem.

NumberDummy 02-13-2019 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by Rowdy73 (Post 18477571)
I would be careful with this stuff guys. As someone who works in law enforcement, grinding off a VIN :-huh plate rivet, even with good intentions, is a felony in most states.
It's not a "VIN" plate.

1963/79: Warranty Plate riveted to the left door face below the latch.

When Ford stamped the VIN on the Warranty Plate, it was called the Warranty Number and Ford said it was not to be used for title or registration purposes.

The 'usual' reason why:

People replaced damaged left doors with used doors. 99.9% of the time, they failed to install the original Warranty Plates on the replaced doors.

1980 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline were the first to have a VIN plate. This is located on the left corner of the dash, visible thru the windshield, has the VIN only stamped on it.

Passenger Cars were required to have a VIN plate in 1968, but the trucks were not until 1980.

The problem is: People call the Warranty Plate a VIN tag or VIN plate, but FoMoCo never did.

black & blue 78/9 02-15-2019 07:39 PM

Legal vin
 
If the warranty tag on the left door is not the legal vin tag than we shouldn't need special rivets to hold it on. Besides how many LEOs will actually check the tag at a pull over?

wyrm73 02-15-2019 08:20 PM

You don't "need" the correct rivets, it just looks better that way and doesn't make people (LEO's included) unnecessarily suspicious when they look at the warranty plate. I know if I was buying a truck and saw one put on with regular old pop-rivets, I would scrape away on the frame until I found the actual VIN stamping, or walk away if I could not verify the VIN.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:36 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands