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"We were looking forward to running a new Ford 6.0L Powerstroke this time around, but it did not happen. With a horsepower, torque and 700-RPM advantage over the Duramax 6600, I fully expected the new Ford diesel would win in a stock/stock contest. The longer you can stay in a lower gear means your drivetrain will be putting more power to the ground than a competing engine with a lower RPM governed limit. However, just days before the event, the new Ford we had scheduled for the Pull-Off suffered from a severe fuel/oil dilution problem that wiped out the turbocharger. A second truck also experienced the same problem, but the turbocharger failure this time required an engine replacement. No other 2003 Ford owner we contacted would risk his truck for a full-pedal run up the hill with a 10K trailer. "
posted from ANOTHER diesel site.
Hmmm Sounds like, yes, better power, questionable reliability of the 6.0.
Ron
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posted from ANOTHER diesel site.
Hmmm Sounds like, yes, better power, questionable reliability of the 6.0.
Ron
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Must be an '03 engine. On the other hand, I know a man here who has a March built 6.0 and he had only one reflash and he says its been fine ever since.
Other people I've talked with have told me that they have had no trouble from the engine or the transmission, but these were June '03 Diesels.
I strongly believe in a few more months (or even weeks), that, these engine problems will be resolved. This engine means too much money to Ford for them to keep on screwing around. I heard something about the '04 engines to have a few component changes to help eliminate these problems. It's on the Ford Fleet site, I saw a link to it the other day some where on here.
Other people I've talked with have told me that they have had no trouble from the engine or the transmission, but these were June '03 Diesels.
I strongly believe in a few more months (or even weeks), that, these engine problems will be resolved. This engine means too much money to Ford for them to keep on screwing around. I heard something about the '04 engines to have a few component changes to help eliminate these problems. It's on the Ford Fleet site, I saw a link to it the other day some where on here.
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Good!
That will be great when they do, or if they already have. They have a power advantage, but im sure they have lost some sales to the competition over it. If it becomes the reliable machine we know Ford is capable of producing, then it will be king. Then again, when Gm introduces the new power upped duramax later in 04 it will have the horsepower and torque advantage. Who knows, I know this, any of the big 3 diesels will tow more weight than I will ever need it to tow. You couldnt go wrong with any of them, thos epeople that get on here and say chevy bites, or dodge bites, just isnt living in the real world.. All three Manufacturers put out great, and powerful trucks now.
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Re: Good!
Originally posted by ktmguy70
All three Manufacturers put out great, and powerful trucks now.
All three Manufacturers put out great, and powerful trucks now.
As far as Ford finally fixing the 6.0 problems, I sure hope you're right MW. Especially since I just bought one. But my big worry is what if these first motors have problems from a bad design somewhere along the way? Will the (me) owners be plagued with problematic trucks that no dealerships will take on trade? Again, I'm sure hoping that's NOT the case but it's a worry.
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I understand Jeb,Fords in a situation Now its not used to being in, that of one losing sales to a competitor due to the reliability problems of its product. Alot of peole, myself included would take a vehicle with 10 less horsepower if it is ultimately more reliable.
Sadly,I think the only thing the 6.0 has going for it now is the numbers (horsepower and Torque). I think when Gm surpasses fords mark in 04 and shows a power, torque, and of course un spoken as of now, but show the reliability advantage they already have, then Ford will be rushing to get something else on the market to compete, and Im afraid the whole process will repeat itself. That 6.0 is an awesome motor when Running properly, and I still think the Numbers are in your favor and you wont experience any problems..Dont worry too much.
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Sadly,I think the only thing the 6.0 has going for it now is the numbers (horsepower and Torque). I think when Gm surpasses fords mark in 04 and shows a power, torque, and of course un spoken as of now, but show the reliability advantage they already have, then Ford will be rushing to get something else on the market to compete, and Im afraid the whole process will repeat itself. That 6.0 is an awesome motor when Running properly, and I still think the Numbers are in your favor and you wont experience any problems..Dont worry too much.
Ron
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It is common for new designs to have problems no matter what brand. They are usually fixed within a year or two. The Focus had problems at first but now it's rated the best small car you can buy. I think the problems with the new 6.0 will be fixed soon if not already. The 7.3 is a very reliable performer and I don't see a reason why they couldn't do that with the new one.
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Hi Ho is right but the failure rate among the 6.0 has to be among the highest of any new motors in a long time. Anyone who reads the forums here and on other sites knows the 6.0 has had a lot of problems. And really it's still continuing with this motor as ford has turned off the Pilot Injection on ALL 6.0's as it's causing too many problems for them. This has been a real mess for Ford with news stories and print reports to back it all up.
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Originally Posted by Hi Ho
It is common for new designs to have problems no matter what brand. They are usually fixed within a year or two. The Focus had problems at first but now it's rated the best small car you can buy. I think the problems with the new 6.0 will be fixed soon if not already. The 7.3 is a very reliable performer and I don't see a reason why they couldn't do that with the new one.
Well said.
Any body care to remember all the problems that the 7.3L had when it came out?
Every motor, regardless of make and R+D time, has "teething stages" when put out on the market for the fiirst time.
Remember, these online forums only represent a super small percentage of well satisfied customers. A person can say that they've seen a lot in the shop, but with without knowing the total amout of trucks sold from that dealer ship, a statement like that is often misguided.