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LOL! This truck spends most of it's time on pavement for sure but it also wanders off onto gravel roads and the occasional sand wash, sand dune or slick rock. I guess that stuff leaves no trace. No significant mud yet.
The transfer case is new for 2017. It definitely is a chain driven unit. This transfer case uses an oil pump to supply lubrication. It has a pickup tube on the bottom on the case plus a magnet to help keep shavings out of the oil pickup. The transfer case also has an electric clutch. This is to make the engagement into 4x4 smoother by matching front drive speed with the speed of the front output shaft. Theoretically, this would allow engaging 4x4 under throttle which with spinning wheels, which was always a no-no.
What failed? Could be a shift fork not moving far enough or broken. Could be the center bearing support failed causing alignment issues internally. The chain and sprockets look very strong.
I like having a console but I also love the reliability of the old floor shift transfer case. I've had a couple occasions where I've used 4 low on automatic transfer cases only to have them stay stuck.
The transfer case is new for 2017. It definitely is a chain driven unit. This transfer case uses an oil pump to supply lubrication. It has a pickup tube on the bottom on the case plus a magnet to help keep shavings out of the oil pickup. The transfer case also has an electric clutch. This is to make the engagement into 4x4 smoother by matching front drive speed with the speed of the front output shaft. Theoretically, this would allow engaging 4x4 under throttle which with spinning wheels, which was always a no-no.
What failed? Could be a shift fork not moving far enough or broken. Could be the center bearing support failed causing alignment issues internally. The chain and sprockets look very strong.
Keep us posted, Epic.
That's good info. The chain and sprockets was the first thing I looked for on the work order but I didn't see those words in my brief glance at the screen. I could have missed it though as we were both in a hurry. I was surprised to see "Pump" on the list so your explanation makes sense.
That's good info. The chain and sprockets was the first thing I looked for on the work order but I didn't see those words in my brief glance at the screen. I could have missed it though as we were both in a hurry. I was surprised to see "Pump" on the list so your explanation makes sense.
The pump is integral to the main input / output shaft. Here's a quick image: (Credit: Habemus Quattro)
Where were you guys camping? We've been shopping Toyhaulers to haul our RZR around with and have been eyeing models with generators so that we can camp off the grid. This winter around Christmas and New Years we plan to make a 2-3 week trip traveling from NY to the West Coast and want to visit as many states and trail systems as we can.
Utah is absolutely on the list and wherever you were at looks beautiful.
Where were you guys camping? We've been shopping Toyhaulers to haul our RZR around with and have been eyeing models with generators so that we can camp off the grid. This winter around Christmas and New Years we plan to make a 2-3 week trip traveling from NY to the West Coast and want to visit as many states and trail systems as we can.
Utah is absolutely on the list and wherever you were at looks beautiful.
Thanks,
Shawn
Places like this are a dime a dozen in Utah. Literally thousands upon thousands of little roads to follow. This little mountain was east of Fairview, Utah at about 7,000 feet. We go to the mountains in the middle of the summer because of the heat at lower elevations but we go exclusively to the deserts all other times. It's just so beautiful and open. Generators are a must but don't forget solar on top of the trailer. We only use the generator for microwave, hair dryers, etc as the solar keeps the two big 6 volt golf cart batteries topped off.
As of last Friday they were still waiting on parts. I'll check in tomorrow for an update. The F150 they gave me is fine and all but it's no SD. Funny how driving an F350 has spoiled my view of other "trucks". The F150 feels like a car with an open box on the back. There's nothing about it that feels truck-like. I guess that makes me a heavy duty snob.
The F-150 is really kind of a marvel. While it certainly is not as capable in terms of payload and towing...ride quality, steering feel, handling, braking, speed, fuel economy...are all superior to the Super Duty. The interiors and features offered are more or less identical. The 150 also offers one feature I *wish* they would offer in the heavy duty trucks...the 4A position on the 4x4 ****. So nice to have that instant AWD with no binding during winter driving during changing road conditions.
The F-150 is really kind of a marvel. While it certainly is not as capable in terms of payload and towing...ride quality, steering feel, handling, braking, speed, fuel economy...are all superior to the Super Duty. The interiors and features offered are more or less identical.
Rating one ride against another is of course hugely subjective. I agree that the F150 is far more car-like than the SD and that is precisely what I don't like about it. It's just... boring. I feel like I'm just four more hoofs in the herd, so to speak. Raptors excluded.
The reason I prefer the HD is similar to the reasons I have a Harley and not a Honda. The Harley is twice the money, half the power, half the suspension and double the noise of the wonderful Japanese and German road bikes. But in my opinion, it has twice the soul and gives double the satisfaction while cruising down the open road.
The great thing about the Super Duty (and the exact opposite of the Harley) is that it is second to none in terms of capability. But there's no question it's a truck when towing or when parking at Jamba Juice. In my opinion, it wins when measured objectively or subjectively.
Hey, I have a Harley, too! Lol. I know what you mean, I like listening to the rumble and I like the style...even if it is slower.
As for the trucks...I never felt terribly exclusive in my Super Duty trucks. There's a huge amount of those on the road, too. I did feel special in my 2017 Super Duty...I was the only one to have one of those for quite a while, and even after a few more started hitting the roads nobody had a dually with LED headlights. But give it another year or two, and these too will be commonplace. I feel more exclusive in the Raptor.
But there certainly was that smug feeling of superiority with the 2017 dually...31.4k max towing, 5,440lbs max payload...440HP...925lb-ft. That part I will completely miss.
Since we are still awaiting repairs to the transfer case I am assuming ahead of time I have permission here to draw this thread even further off subject.
In late 2012 the wife and I started considering what street bike we should get. Having spent most of our lives focused on a variety of off road activities we wanted to transition in part to some long distance touring to see the country on pavement.
We are boomers in the middle of our 7th decade so the allure and attraction of Harley is well embedded in our souls. So very happy the company was rescued as for me Harley is an iconic representation of the American way of life. Pride in ownership is so very evident in every Harley rider I get to share with. Since my high school years I have always heard Harley calling my name. For me, if it has 2 wheels and a motor, I'll ride it.
In 2012 I was hearing a second voice also however. The dirt bike community in general tends to lean a little more towards performance and some in that community find Harley a foolish endeavor. On the other side my 2 sons (in their mid thirties) were pushing hard for a Harley.
I had not been on a Harley since my college days and the boys had never ridden one so I told them since we know what dirt and dual sport bikes are like lets go rent some Harleys. Rentals are sparse where I live so we drove down to Vacaville, CA and rented 3 different Harleys.
Heading north on straight and gently curving roads I led the first 20 or 30 miles as I usually do when riding off road with the boys. Approaching Lake Berryessa I let them by as I often do when approaching a more challenging section, don't want to hold them up.
Starting to feel comfortable on the bikes now the boys are riding side by side (which I don't like to do) and I am following close behind entering the first significant curve on our route. Suddenly I find myself confronting a wall of sparks, what the heck? Both boys had compressed their suspensions and grounded pegs dragging them exiting the curve.
We pulled over to discuss and re-group and came to the obvious conclusion that these bikes were awesome, but did need to be ridden a little differently. We enjoyed the rest of the ride immensely.
The wife and I ended up with a 2013 BMW R1200 GSW, the first water cooled GS for BMW, and just love it. If I had room in my life for another vehicle a Harley would be in the running for sure. We just returned from 16 days on our bike staying in hotels every night this time and I would estimate about 1/4 of the vehicles on average in the lot every night were motorcycles and 85 to 90% of those Harleys.