The time has come!
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The time has come!
Ive put just under 15k miles on my 6.0 since getting it in February, and I should finally have the money to bulletproof it within the next month or so.
My local shop does the following for 4 grand.
ARP studs
Ford OEM MLS Gaskets
Cylinder head cleaning (I think any machining is extra cost if needed)
New Ford oil cooler kit
EGR Cooler replacement
Updated Ford oil rail end plugs and STC fitting if needed
fresh coolant/oil/filters
In addition to this, I was also looking at a FICM tune (already running Gearhead SRL and love it)
Is there anything else that I am missing that would be nice to add while the work is being done?
Im sure ill come up with some more questions in the coming days for yall.
Thanks
My local shop does the following for 4 grand.
ARP studs
Ford OEM MLS Gaskets
Cylinder head cleaning (I think any machining is extra cost if needed)
New Ford oil cooler kit
EGR Cooler replacement
Updated Ford oil rail end plugs and STC fitting if needed
fresh coolant/oil/filters
In addition to this, I was also looking at a FICM tune (already running Gearhead SRL and love it)
Is there anything else that I am missing that would be nice to add while the work is being done?
Im sure ill come up with some more questions in the coming days for yall.
Thanks
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Turbo overhauled?
On my recent dummy plug adventure, I had plans to air test the HPO system through the IPR, basically to determine if injector o-rings or nipple cups were giving out. Opted out for a couple reasons. But, it may be worth an oil analysis prior to determine if either or both those should be pursued while the valve covers are off. Possible bubble test as well.
On my recent dummy plug adventure, I had plans to air test the HPO system through the IPR, basically to determine if injector o-rings or nipple cups were giving out. Opted out for a couple reasons. But, it may be worth an oil analysis prior to determine if either or both those should be pursued while the valve covers are off. Possible bubble test as well.
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Did a flush when I bought the truck and used Zerex G05.
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Turbo overhauled?
On my recent dummy plug adventure, I had plans to air test the HPO system through the IPR, basically to determine if injector o-rings or nipple cups were giving out. Opted out for a couple reasons. But, it may be worth an oil analysis prior to determine if either or both those should be pursued while the valve covers are off. Possible bubble test as well.
On my recent dummy plug adventure, I had plans to air test the HPO system through the IPR, basically to determine if injector o-rings or nipple cups were giving out. Opted out for a couple reasons. But, it may be worth an oil analysis prior to determine if either or both those should be pursued while the valve covers are off. Possible bubble test as well.
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Originally Posted by ChalmersP
I am definitely planning on asking them about aftermarket parts such as BPD. Still kinda 50/50 on the EGR cooler or EGR delete, Ill have to research that more.
Did a flush when I bought the truck and used Zerex G05.
Did a flush when I bought the truck and used Zerex G05.
As far as the egr delete itself, I prefer the Dieselsite egr delete as it's a much better design than the metal J tube and silicone hose that often leaks or tears the silicone hose.
Make doubly sure they bother to clean the intake manifold, when they have it off, you'll see why.
I would also have the heads machined even if you didn't have a problem with them leaking or lifting before. Not having the heads properly machined is the #1 mistake people make when doing head gaskets on a 6.0.
I'd also find out what they Torque the studs to...
The old spec is 245 ft/lbs but is now 210 ft/lbs. Some torque them to 220, some 230.
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If your state, city, county or whoever doesn't test these trucks for and emissions, delete the egr cooler. Your Gearhead tunes already have the egr tuned off and tuned out, no need for the cooler as it's one of the Achilles heels of this truck.
As far as the egr delete itself, I prefer the Dieselsite egr delete as it's a much better design than the metal J tube and silicone hose that often leaks or tears the silicone hose.
Make doubly sure they bother to clean the intake manifold, when they have it off, you'll see why.
I would also have the heads machined even if you didn't have a problem with them leaking or lifting before. Not having the heads properly machined is the #1 mistake people make when doing head gaskets on a 6.0.
I'd also find out what they Torque the studs to...
The old spec is 245 ft/lbs but is now 210 ft/lbs. Some torque them to 220, some 230.
As far as the egr delete itself, I prefer the Dieselsite egr delete as it's a much better design than the metal J tube and silicone hose that often leaks or tears the silicone hose.
Make doubly sure they bother to clean the intake manifold, when they have it off, you'll see why.
I would also have the heads machined even if you didn't have a problem with them leaking or lifting before. Not having the heads properly machined is the #1 mistake people make when doing head gaskets on a 6.0.
I'd also find out what they Torque the studs to...
The old spec is 245 ft/lbs but is now 210 ft/lbs. Some torque them to 220, some 230.
Living in SW FL is great for emissions, not so great for heat and working on my truck ._.
Ill bring up the intake manifold as well, and maybe even see if I can stop by a day or two just to see what the guts of my engine look like while theyre doing the work.
Thanks for the suggestion on heads too - ill consider that one preventative maintenance.
Thoughts of larger injectors or different turbo have come to mind, but I dont think that would be worth the cost for my situation.
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Yeah that was an impulse buy. I just wanted to get the old coolant out and flush it before I put too many miles on it, and the zerex was the only stuff I could find off the shelf. Definitely going to see if they will fill with an ELC coolant, as well as my usual rotella t6 oil.
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[QUOTE=ChalmersP;17401270
Thoughts of larger injectors or different turbo have come to mind, but I dont think that would be worth the cost for my situation.[/QUOTE]
I would consider lifters, cam, and resealing the front cover,back cover, bedplate before that if it were me. Not sure if they are pulling your engine or lifting the cab and/or how much that would add to your bill but I'm guessing less than injectors and a turbo. Also updated push rods are cheap regardless. I didn't see bluespring update on your list or turbo updates (drain tube, etc.). Wish I had done lifters but hopefully they will last a long time.
Thoughts of larger injectors or different turbo have come to mind, but I dont think that would be worth the cost for my situation.[/QUOTE]
I would consider lifters, cam, and resealing the front cover,back cover, bedplate before that if it were me. Not sure if they are pulling your engine or lifting the cab and/or how much that would add to your bill but I'm guessing less than injectors and a turbo. Also updated push rods are cheap regardless. I didn't see bluespring update on your list or turbo updates (drain tube, etc.). Wish I had done lifters but hopefully they will last a long time.
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I would consider lifters, cam, and resealing the front cover,back cover, bedplate before that if it were me. Not sure if they are pulling your engine or lifting the cab and/or how much that would add to your bill but I'm guessing less than injectors and a turbo. Also updated push rods are cheap regardless. I didn't see bluespring update on your list or turbo updates (drain tube, etc.). Wish I had done lifters but hopefully they will last a long time.
I have a 4" turbo back exhaust right now, how much more of a difference in EGT's would a 5" provide? Id like to run some hotter tunes than SRL once bulletproofed. I see 1100-1200 on a rolling start 0-60 pull.
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Looks like the updated will be pushed back due to some more "lack-o-money" problems on my end.
But still a few more ideas popped into my head.
Anyone run a wicked wheel? Big improvement?
And still havent heard much about FICM tuning. Ive read alot of great news about tuning WITHOUT an ecm tune, but i feel like the gains would be way less with the tunes that I already have.
Ill also eventually explore the other tune options, since right now im only comfortable running SRL on TTY bolts.
The cost of fun adds up quick
But still a few more ideas popped into my head.
Anyone run a wicked wheel? Big improvement?
And still havent heard much about FICM tuning. Ive read alot of great news about tuning WITHOUT an ecm tune, but i feel like the gains would be way less with the tunes that I already have.
Ill also eventually explore the other tune options, since right now im only comfortable running SRL on TTY bolts.
The cost of fun adds up quick
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Would the lifters and cam be a preventative item, or performance based? I have done the blue spring upgrade, but will ask them about the turbo drain tube as well.
I have a 4" turbo back exhaust right now, how much more of a difference in EGT's would a 5" provide? Id like to run some hotter tunes than SRL once bulletproofed. I see 1100-1200 on a rolling start 0-60 pull.
I have a 4" turbo back exhaust right now, how much more of a difference in EGT's would a 5" provide? Id like to run some hotter tunes than SRL once bulletproofed. I see 1100-1200 on a rolling start 0-60 pull.
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