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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CountryBumkin
I don't believe I read which cam you bought - but if it is similar to ones we talked about in the first couple of posts, you don't need to change springs (unless yours are worn out). The Cams we are recommending are close enough to stock lift and duration that the stock string rates are correct.


On the stud question, there are different styles used. If you have the "press in studs" or "non-adjustable" style it is generally recommended to replace with the screw in style (that requires machine work on the heads). I don't recall what style the 351W uses. This may be what the recommendation is about.
The press in studs generally only need to be changed if you are running more than 100LBS spring pressure or high lift cams. Other wise they are ok to use.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gertrude351w
Okay so I got the cam in and didn't realize it didn't come with lifters . I'm hearing a lot of Unsatisfied people saying comp lifters suck. I haven't even pulled it apart yet. But it's saying to replace some stud.... Is it referring to the rocker stud ? And saying it needs adjustable rockers or something . Also requires springs... I think I'll be okay to skip out on springs cause it's literally a work truck that will never see high rpm . If I'm not using the springs would the studs really be necessary ?from my understanding the stud would fail because of the increased spring load. And my truck will never ever see the valve float area ... I feel like these extra parts are needed cause people bounce their 4x4 off the rev limiter in the mud . And I feel like I'm the exception lol. I won't drive the truck any different than I did before . Possibly with a much lighter foot because of the increased power with minimal input . I'll be calling comp cams tomorrow and asking to speak to someone competent . We will see how that goes
Welcome to having a Ford engine. On these engines the valve train is not adjustable. That works fine when all stock parts are used. Ford carefully figured out the dimensions of the cam, the length of the pushrod, position of the rocker and the valve stem length so that when you tighten down the bolt for the rocker, the hydraulic lifter is in the center of it's travel. You tighten them down and go.

But, when you put a different camshaft in place, that cam manufacturer was not as careful. It can have the same lift as the stock cam, but what they call the "base circle" can be different. This offsets the whole valvetrain and then the lifter plunger is not in the right place. You get ticking from a loose valvetrain or it won't run because the valves are open all the time.

You probably have the later style valve train where they actually used bolts to hold the rockers in place. To make the valve train adjustable the heads have to be pulled and some machine work needs to be done to install screw-in studs and guide plates. With guide plates you need to get hardened pushrods. It's a real can of worms, the stock heads are not worth all that time money to modify them.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
The Small block never got their cams retarded. In 72 the 335's got 4° of retard at the crank and the 385's got 8° of retard at the crank. No worries about cam timing in the small blocks they were all 0° from the factory.
Which would mean I as a teenager was maybe being misled by a parts store employee who maybe only half knew his chit?

Could be, and I haven't looked up these specific parts (especially in this year vintage) for a LONG time now.

All I am saying is to be careful and pay attention to what you're doing, there are lots of options available today and misinformation gets spread easily.
 
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