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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 01:34 PM
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6.0 no start help needed

So it's an 03, known for the problems. I would turn the key and get nothing. Just a click. I jumped the starter and started it but it stalled and died. No start again. It wouldn't start hot.

Next, I changed the filters. All motorcraft oem (had a tall cap for the oil previously) then I added more diesel fuel. It started jumping the cable and now it won't start jumping it.

I replaced the start to find out it didn't help anything. 175$ down the toilet. I checked fuses, replaced all the starter ones. Good batteries, the inertia switch should be fine, pressed on button. I have water in fuel light and check engine. Gonna use my buddies code scanner to read them this weekend. But I unplugged the center pcm connector and it would crank from the key..getting somewhere now. Still no start

Tried jumping and nothing. Did the bubble test and it seemed fine. Any ideas what It could be, I will update this thread when I read the codes. I was thinking icp and ipr but not sure. Thank you
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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Sounds like you have a sensor shorted. Wish I was home to find the pinout for the center PCM connector. But check your fan wiring and unhook your other sensors like MAP EBP ICP Maf etc
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FiznUKa
Sounds like you have a sensor shorted. Wish I was home to find the pinout for the center PCM connector. But check your fan wiring and unhook your other sensors like MAP EBP ICP Maf etc
I am on vaca at the moment, but should I unplug the sensors 1 by 1 and check it?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 05:52 PM
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I would do a visual inspection best you can. Then unhook them 1x1
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FiznUKa
I would do a visual inspection best you can. Then unhook them 1x1

Alright, I'll look up and see how you do them, don't know a whole lot about this.
Thank you and I'll be sure to do that when I get back home.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 07:06 PM
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Use the search function in this forum and look for the thread "Driveway bulletproof 6.0" in post#145 has a few pinouts posted by Yahiko that will help identify what that plug contains. The middle connector is c1381c.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:00 PM
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PCM PLUGS PINOUT (thanks Benny)
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...or-pinout.html

Sean (Yahiko) also posted all three in this thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...cm-pinout.html
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:16 PM
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Mark that first link gives you this.
The requested page was not found.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:27 PM
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Thanks Sean. I think I fixed it.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:39 PM
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Hmm in looking at the pinouts I have for that I seem to see that is the engine.
That would be C1381c I think.

EDIT Give me a bit and I can upload the pinouts for A B & C

Here we go.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 09:51 PM
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The pinouts should be in the links above, but they are for an 07. Not sure how much change happened over the 4 years.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:04 PM
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Ok so I uploaded the 2003 diagrams and the location guide.

The center one is c and that has most of the engine sensors on it.
Time to start looking at connectors and the harness for chafing and wire damage.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Ok so I uploaded the 2003 diagrams and the location guide.

The center one is c and that has most of the engine sensors on it.
Time to start looking at connectors and the harness for chafing and wire damage.
On vacation, but I will search the truck for wires that look messed up and stuff like that. May sound dumb now but I'm not sure what Pinout means, I'm guessing it's where the connectoEs go to right, lol. Thank you guys for the help
 
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The pinout is just a drawing that shows where in the connector each wire is located and what it goes to I.E. sensors,horn etc.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2017 | 10:33 PM
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I figured that but wanted to be positive, I forgot what forum I saw this on but he said if you have this problem you unplug center PCM, he had an ICP issue. I'll let you know what the codes say but I'm betting on the ICP and IPR.
 
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