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Old May 31, 2017 | 05:02 PM
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EBP Valve Partially Closing

After running highway speed then stopping, the EBP valve is partially closing as you accelerate back up to speed. You can hear it in the sound of the motor, and you can see it on EGT's, which are rising quickly. This happens briefly then corrects. We unplugged the EBP sensor and the problem continued. Tube is clear.

If I monitor the EBP sensor, what values should I see if it is functioning properly?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 12:32 AM
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The EBV is operated based on engine temperature. Maybe it thinks it's cold.
 
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Did you check to see if your EBPV actuator is leaking at the pedestal?

It may not have the holding power to keep it open under load?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 07:25 AM
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The EBP regulator needs a signal to activate the EBPV, it doesn't need anything to hold it open. It sounds like maybe the turbo pedestal needs a rebuild - or the EBPV linkage has an issue.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
The EBP regulator needs a signal to activate the EBPV, it doesn't need anything to hold it open. It sounds like maybe the turbo pedestal needs a rebuild - or the EBPV linkage has an issue.
So if you unplug the EBPV at the base of the pedestal would that eliminate the signal? Narrow down whether or not it's mechanical or electrical?
 
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So we are going to try to reenact issue and graph EBP, EOT, MAP. Anything else?
 
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Originally Posted by AllaboutMPG
So if you unplug the EBPV at the base of the pedestal would that eliminate the signal? Narrow down whether or not it's mechanical or electrical?
With the EBPV's signal eliminated by disconnecting the plug at the pedestal, what directs the EBPV to move?
 
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Originally Posted by Whitey Ford
With the EBPV's signal eliminated by disconnecting the plug at the pedestal, what directs the EBPV to move?
I would say it shouldn't move without a signal to command it.

My thought was to narrow your problem down to either electrical, getting a signal when you shouldn't

or mechanical the actuator is bad letting the EBV close when it shouldn't.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2017 | 09:07 PM
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The EBPV actuator/piston assembly is supposed to be pre-loaded to keep the EBP flapper closed, unless actuated by oil pressure, triggered by the EBPV solenoid.

The arm is attached to a piston and spring in the horizontal cylinder in the base of the pedestal. Oil introduced through ports into this cylinder pushes the piston and rod to open the butterfly valve.

Here are the instructions, detailing the preload and some details.

I just rebuilt mine. If you need some pics, I can take some of the old parts tomorrow after my am appt.
 
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Can that be rebuilt without removing the pedestal?
 
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
Can that be rebuilt without removing the pedestal?
Probably but it would be like changing your underwear in a straight jacket.... not easy, and take forever
 
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Old Jun 2, 2017 | 11:20 AM
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Rebuilding Ebpv

Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
Can that be rebuilt without removing the pedestal?
Depends... Have you ever honed a cylinder through a glowplug hole?

Master that first, then wirh special tooling it would only be "near" impossible, lol.

But seriously, I've done crazy things like that, working deep inside cavities packed tight with wiring and other components, but I think you'd be very likely to fail cleaning and inspection part
 
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