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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 02:58 AM
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If you can feel a that a spool valve is sticking then that injector
would be DEAD. The spool valves move from end to end in
milliseconds time.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 08:00 AM
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Gotcha okay, but if this is the issue I should notice some kind of drag with the spool valve?

I am going to do it either way this weekend....
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 11:46 AM
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My experience: Fought the stiction issue for 2 years until I fixed it.. Hot Shots helped for a long time along but the the problem continued (also run full synthetic oil.) I was able to determine which injectors were the problem by shutting off each injector via software (Auto Enginuity - I'm neutral on recommending it)

I thought why not try cleaning the spool valves. I took apart the 3 suspects ones, mechanically and ultrasonically cleaned the spool valves. Re-installed, ran better but not a magical fix. Cold EOT running rough problem was still present until 130 on EOT.

Changed the 3 injectors with OEM remanufactured - dramatic improvement. So much I went ahead and changed out the other 5. The truck runs, starts, beautifully now at any temp.

For me, I would go directly to re-mans and skip the cleaning step.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Excursion
My experience: Fought the stiction issue for 2 years until I fixed it.. Hot Shots helped for a long time along but the the problem continued (also run full synthetic oil.) I was able to determine which injectors were the problem by shutting off each injector via software (Auto Enginuity - I'm neutral on recommending it)

I thought why not try cleaning the spool valves. I took apart the 3 suspects ones, mechanically and ultrasonically cleaned the spool valves. Re-installed, ran better but not a magical fix. Cold EOT running rough problem was still present until 130 on EOT.

Changed the 3 injectors with OEM remanufactured - dramatic improvement. So much I went ahead and changed out the other 5. The truck runs, starts, beautifully now at any temp.

For me, I would go directly to re-mans and skip the cleaning step.
I would agree about just replacing them all at just be done with it.....but for half a days labor I think I am just going try the cheaper way first granted it usually doesn't work that way but the truck just runs so damn good when its warmed up.....Its worth a shot......on the scanner is showed injector #6 acting funny when it was cold so I am going to pay extra attention to that one
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006powerstroke90
Gotcha okay, but if this is the issue I should notice some kind of drag with the spool valve?

I am going to do it either way this weekend....
You should not be able to feel anything really.
It's a fine file on the spool.

I am guessing at this point but I have a feeling that the spools
are honed into the housing to reach a given tolerance during
the assembly process.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2017 | 09:33 PM
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Just wanted to give an update. I tore into the driver side tonight since it has the most crap to move out of the way looks like that side has 2 reman injectors in it.

The spool valves on the 2 (newer remans) moved easier by finger than the 2 other ones. After I cleaned them it definitely felt like I noticed an improvement, maybe my head is telling me that's what I want to feel? So I got them all re o ringed back up ready to go in. I hope I didn't leave the bolt to loose or to tight on the actual injector itself.

I really like working on this truck VS the 05+ so much easier to remove the HPO rail, that OTC disconnect tool I got worked like a charm.

I attached a couple pics

On the actual spool valve pic you can see the before on the left and after on the right. Nice and shiny and clean
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 03:54 AM
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2nd photo down. Is that a crack I see on the left hand side
of the injector by the solenoid coils?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
2nd photo down. Is that a crack I see on the left hand side
of the injector by the solenoid coils?
It must of been a piece of lint of something....I looked this morning and it wasnt there...
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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That's a mark in the injector, look carefully, you can see it just by zooming in.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 01:52 PM
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I think it was something sitting on the injector. Here's better pics
 
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 07:02 PM
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Well truck is all back together and everything was going GREAT

Until.....I lost high pressure oil and stalled out.

ICP building about 130PSI IPR is 84.* %

Hopefully the IPR is gummed up from crap falling into the heads while working on it.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 07:23 PM
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Have you ran it?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Yeah, I was driving it when it died like someone shut off the key.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 09:37 PM
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Well I got home pulled the IPR and it was perfect. Pulled the valve covers to check for a HPO leak somewhere nothing.

So I am thinking 2 things

My HPO fried bleeding the oil system.

Or could it be the ICP sensor itself?
 
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Check and make sure that you don't have cracked
fittings on the oil disconnects of the rail.
 
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