I'm anxious to see the 5.0 numbers. I have a 2012 FX4 5.0 and drove the equal truck in a 16. Night and day. Add a few gears and a little more power, and I'll have a hard time choosing again.

I would imagine that Ford would aim for mpg numbers. The 3.5 will tow more than that half ton platform will keep under control. Also, Ford has a towing diesel, but you never know. As far as the Titan, I see a truck with 3/4 ton price, maintenance, and economy, with barely better than half ton capability. IMO, of course.

 

Now if Ford would only offer the HD payload package as an add on to any F150.

 

No, the 3.3 looks like it was added, they also list the 3.5 there too.


"Based on your need, the 2018 F-150 provides more engine alternatives. First, there’s an all-new standard 3.3L Ti-VCT V6. Next up, a 2.7L EcoBoost,Ⓡ a 5.0L Ti-VCT V8 and a 3.5L EcoBoost are all paired with a 10-speed transmission to deliver improved acceleration and performance. Of course, the F-150 Raptor gets its own unique high-output 3.5L EcoBoost. Also look for yet another powerful new option … with a new 3.0L Power StrokeⓇ Diesel engine."

Wow, Ford is going from 3 engines to 5, plus the Raptor's new 3.5!

 

It's basically the same as the 3.5/3.5 engine family with enhancements like a dual fuel system (High Pressure Direct injection and Low Pressure Port injections). I suspect the 3.3L and the 5.0L received basically the same enhancements.

 

Here they go again. Take the square truck look that finally nails the design and then start going down the bulbous rounding road that Ford always has to go down (see hideous early 2000 era). Do they bring in new toilet designers every time they reach a level of design success? Ford shoud be going down the modern utilitarian route, not the sporty feminine route that has always lost them market share.

 

If anything, Ford has been the down-to-basics, real commercial, utilitarian company of the big three. Ram and Chevy have tried to look like they have the tough trucks, but Ford always follows through with the idea of a utilitarian truck. They build and design everything they put in the F Series, as well as every other commercial truck. Ford is the only company with a separate design for the heavier-duty light-duty trucks (Super Duty),
Ram has completely given up on building their own engines, relying on Cummins and a separate Italian company to build their engines. Ford is also leading the market with smaller, equally-powerful V6s, while the other two are still using big block V8s, a market that's being crippled and dying.
Ford is thriving in the medium duty truck market, a market which Chevy gave up in a decade ago, and the market Dodge was never in. Even though it would seem reasonable for Ford to use Cummins engines in much heavier-duty trucks, they still use their own engines!
Ford's vans may have foreign names, but the vans sold in the US are built and designed here. Chevy hasn't even tried to compete with the global full-sized van design, and their compact van is built by Nissan. Ram's vans are Italian based.

Looks are only skin-deep, and the competition doesn't have much under that 'tough truck' look.

I'll get down off my soap box now...

I personally like the new design. Not so much the full double-bar design on the King Ranch and Platinum/Limited, but that trim level has always been too gaudy for me. If anything, the update makes the new trucks look even bigger and tougher. Other than the higher trim levels, I don't see them looking any more feminine, but the Platinum is marketed more towards women. Whoever would buy a higher trim level isn't going to want the tough truck look.
I really like the grille on the Sport package!

 

Anything above Lariat is practically worthless to me and the only thing I like about Lariat is the leather/pleather seats and that's it. But I'm more of an XLT person with FX4 skidplates, but that's because where I go hunting, there are hard to see stupms in the trail that will knock the oil pan if you're not careful. Do they even have pleather seat options in the XLT trim or is that gone for good? Long as it has a multi disc CD player, power seats, mirrors and heated seats and enough 12v plugs to charge a couple phones, I'm happy as a clam. I would like the 120v built in system to charge my laptop on trips.

 

Not a fan of the new grille, makes the truck look too happy.

 

I bet that the new 3L diesel outsells the 3.5 ecoboost.

 

It won't if it's $5000 more. If it's say $2000 more then maybe.

 

The rumor I heard today was that it was going to produce 410hp and 390lb/ft of torque.

 

I'll bet not even then because the towing numbers won't be there. It will fill the MPG niche with "some" capability.

I'll wager that with the 2.7L being enhanced and the 5.L being upgraded again, the 3.5L ecoboost isn't long for this world. Just a gut hunch.

 

F150 diesel sounds like a good reason for me to find a new job. Maybe I can sell my tools and work in the detail department. I'd say I'll go to GM but I'm sure they'll try to shove one of their Duramax turds into a half ton now that Ford and Fiat are selling their versions.

 

I dunno....I fall into the category of folks who don't need 10,000 lbs of towing capacity, but sure would like mid-20's for fuel economy. Perhaps it's all nostalgia for my two Powerstroke trucks, but I wouldn't mind one. Wouldn't mind an EcoDiesel either.

 

Diesels are more expensive to maintain, repair and purchase up front. If you tow more often than you don't or drive non stop the fuel savings can make up for those other costs. For the average truck buyer they don't.